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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Having soem issues with my winter hack peugeot 205 D I bought it as a non runner with a suspected duff injection pump, anyway I replaced that, and got it running, seems the p/o was running it on cooking oil or something, and as its fitted with a Lucas pump, it killed it there's a full tank of fuel in it (whatever that stuff he was running it on is) so I didn't really want to empty it and just left it in there thinking it would be ok for a short time. anyway, went to move it today so I could finish a few jobs on it boefore the mot, and it started ok, ran for a bit then died  seems there is no diesel at the injectors again, same as before? surely they don't break that easily? its maybe run for 2 hours max, I know they don't like cooking oil, but are they that easily damaged? I'm thinking on sticking a Bosch pump on it as there 100% more reliable, do they swap over OK, or Will I need the injectors etc (ill be fitting the Bosch type heated filter and priming bulb as there a better system imho, I know there are a few guys on here that know more about these than I do (more a petrol man really....) thanks  |
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Last Edit: Nov 5, 2011 19:18:04 GMT by Ratchet
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I know the Lucases have a curse word rep but I can't imagine one being destroyed that quickly by veg, unless it was already tired and on the brink of giving in? Did it die straight away or splutter a bit first?
I have a spare non-turbo Bosch one for a XUD9 1.9 but I thought the 205s had 1.8s so possibly won't fit.
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Yes, the Lucas pumps really are that curse word. I've heard about them dying within 5 miles of running on veg, so 2 hours at tickover might be enough.
Don't know about the Bosch conversion I'm afraid.
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bortaf
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TBH i've never run a lucas on 100% veg, that's like Russian roulette unless you start and finish on diesel AND run a heated feed/tank for the oil, with weaker mixtures the seals tend to leak first, it's cold starting that is the danger with lucas pumps on veg and it sounds like you may have just descoverd that |
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Ratchet
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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I know the Lucases have a curse word rep but I can't imagine one being destroyed that quickly by veg, unless it was already tired and on the brink of giving in? Did it die straight away or splutter a bit first? I have a spare non-turbo Bosch one for a XUD9 1.9 but I thought the 205s had 1.8s so possibly won't fit. yeah it started ok, smoked a bit tho, I gave it some revs as its a bit hesitant when cold which was ok then it started to slow down and stopped lol after that nothing, no fuel at the injectors at all even though there is fuel at the pump yeah its a 1.8, the pump that's on it at the moment is from a 1.9 and it seems ok... well it did till it broke Edit: now bidding on a Bosch pump on ebay, really cheap atm (only reason i didn't get one before was that they were all £50+ when i looked) guess i need to find injectors too |
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Last Edit: Nov 5, 2011 18:59:32 GMT by Ratchet
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1994 Yamaha FZR600r
2010 honda CBF100GT
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Blimey, I didn't realise they were that fragile. Well I've got the Bosch pump, lines and injectors so PM me if they're of any use to you  |
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Ratchet
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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Blimey, I didn't realise they were that fragile. Well I've got the Bosch pump, lines and injectors so PM me if they're of any use to you neither did i, though they would last a few months on it before dieing hence why i left it in the tank interested in the pump etc lines would be handy too, i went to see if i could get one of the hand pump primers today as mine has the older type filter, not one in the scrappy here, all been robbed already :/ |
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1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4
1987 landrover 110
1994 Yamaha FZR600r
2010 honda CBF100GT
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there's a full tank of fuel in it (whatever that stuff he was running it on is) so I didn't really want to empty it and just left it in there thinking it would be ok for a short time. anyway, went to move it today so I could finish a few jobs on it boefore the mot, and it started ok, ran for a bit then died seems there is no diesel at the injectors again, same as before? surely they don't break that easily? its maybe run for 2 hours max, I know they don't like cooking oil, but are they that easily damaged? thanks Yep way long enough, its probably siezed the pump internally unless there is a blockage somewhere else in the fuel system.... |
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The user formerly known as Thomas
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there's a full tank of fuel in it (whatever that stuff he was running it on is) so I didn't really want to empty it and just left it in there thinking it would be ok for a short time. anyway, went to move it today so I could finish a few jobs on it boefore the mot, and it started ok, ran for a bit then died seems there is no diesel at the injectors again, same as before? surely they don't break that easily? its maybe run for 2 hours max, I know they don't like cooking oil, but are they that easily damaged? thanks Yep way long enough, its probably siezed the pump internally unless there is a blockage somewhere else in the fuel system.... yeah almost certain its the pump now, theres fuel at the inlet, but none at the outlet back to the tank, even when wound over I tried feeding it via a fuel can with "real" diesel in it set up to gravity feed to eliminate the notoriously temperamental primer pump/filter it has but nothing, Ah well ill know better next time, Bosch system is definitely getting fitted asap, as i'll likely be needing the car soon (i only have my motorcycle as transport atm, as both my cars are out of action >_>) |
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Competition is the law of the jungle, but cooperation is the law of civilization.
1971 vw beetle 1200
1978 international loadstar 1700 4x4
1987 landrover 110
1994 Yamaha FZR600r
2010 honda CBF100GT
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seems there is no diesel at the injectors again, same as before? surely they don't break that easily? its maybe run for 2 hours max, I know they don't like cooking oil, but are they that easily damaged?
