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Oct 30, 2011 14:29:29 GMT
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Having being monumentally let down on my transit sale and just before selling I changed a tyre and realized the chassis is in exceptional condition my thoughts turn to keeping the beast,but getting rid of the rather underpowered 2.5di.
Despite being a great motor,I do long long mileages (600 at a time) and dropping down to 55mph on hills can become depressing.
Now,I've read on here before of someone converting the tranny to a pug turbo xud lump using ldv parts.
I've driven a pug powered ldv tipper to the Mot centre,which of course it failed dismally on an 02 plate although the performance was great,really punchy,just what I'm after.
Sadly that was scrapped before I bought my tranny.
If anyone has any thoughts/links on how to do this I would be most grateful as I won't be putting the useless pumped ford tdci motor in it as I need reliability not bills for pump/injectors.
I did toy with a nice merc 300 derv with autobox for laziness but I don't want this to become too epic!!!!
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Oct 30, 2011 17:47:43 GMT
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What about a V6 petrol conversion and run on LPG ?
BTW is this a SWB or LWB version / low / Hi-Top Transit ?
I had a SWB medium top with the 2.5 Di and it went quite well so have you checked your current engine is healthy.
Paul H
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bortaf
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Oct 30, 2011 18:10:20 GMT
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The 2.5 pug LDV 400s i've had didn't use the ford box they used the LT rover box? not sure the convoys ever used the pug lump i thought they all used the transit turbo engine ??
the Mk3 granny however used the same engine with a type 9 behind it if that helps.
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Oct 30, 2011 18:32:54 GMT
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The pug engine in the LDV is the 2.5 ohv turbo engine, like whats in a Pug 505.... its not an XUD. The XUD seems a bit small to me for a tranny, I imagine it would be very slow and blow itself to bits after a while. I understand the LDV pilots with it in are pretty hideously slow.
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Oct 30, 2011 19:10:30 GMT
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if you head towards london then go petrol or something more modern,.
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Oct 30, 2011 19:46:35 GMT
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Transplanting one Derv for another, in this case, seems to be a time consuming and expensive option.
Have you actually had a look at how you Tranny is geared? They came with plenty of Diff ratios, perhaps yours could be changed to give a more comfortable cruising speed or better acceleration? Wheel sizes? Is it vaguely possible that you could change them to give you slightly higher/lower gearing? I'm just thinking that there are other, far cheaper possibilities in getting the best out of the standard engine without resorting to ripping it out and shoving another in which, even in TD form wont be hugely more powerful and certainly not neccessarily more reliable than the old nail you already have under the bonnet.
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bortaf
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Oct 30, 2011 21:29:06 GMT
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The pug engine in the LDV is the 2.5 ohv turbo engine, like whats in a Pug 505.... its not an XUD. The XUD seems a bit small to me for a tranny, I imagine it would be very slow and blow itself to bits after a while. I understand the LDV pilots with it in are pretty hideously slow. pilots used the non turbo 1.9 so i'm surrpised they were slow  the 2.5 wernt to bad in my amby/camper even though it was perminabtly at 3.4 ton, not very good on juice though but that could well be down to the weight  I agree the gearing (diff) makes a huge differance, my old Di minbus would do 95 flat out fully loaed (early round filter type) even my recovery with the same diff would cruise at 60 all day long and top 85 on the flat, it allways seened to me the higher diff made the torque band wider and way more usable. |
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2011 21:33:04 GMT by bortaf
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I've said it a few times now, but it works, so will happily keep mentioning it Grab the gearbox from an LDV Pilot (based on an R380 dontcha know, so has the ford output on the prop) forget the XUD9 fitted to the LDV, only good as a paperweight - can't be turbo'd either, the internals won't cope Instead, grab an already turbo'd XUD9 (1.9L) or the larger XUD11 (2.1L), and pop along to a DAF dealer, and order yourself a spigot bearing for an LDV Pilot for a fiver. You can't use a normal XUD flywheel, as they're all "pull" to release (quite a clever setup... but nothing else uses it!) you could use the LDV Pilot flywheel+clutch, but it's only a tiddler... Instead, grab yourself a pug 306 HDi flywheel (push to release!) and get a clutch friction plate, meant for a Ford Galaxy - use the pressure plate for the 306 HDi now.. to make your life a zillion times easier, get the cast-iron brackets that bolt to the side of the Pilot's engine, as these not only give you the engine mounts, the driver-side one also spaces out the clutch slave cylinder the required amount. You'll need to change the slave cylinder too - very common fitment, so nice and cheap and a quick bit I found online, and used as reference when doing my conversion: |
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I have no idea what i'm talking about with diesels, so ignore me if you wanna keep it simple and sensible.
But i know the Jag S-Type 2.7 V6 diesel, and Land Rover Discovery3 2.7 V6 diesel, are two vehicles which share the same highly acclaimed unit which isn't in any way short of grunt, and they're now powering their way into breakers yards - and the strong Ford connection with those two could also be helpful..?
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Cheers chairchild,thats some great info,but it's just dawned on me today that I have so many projects on the go that I've just decided to put it up for sale.
Thanks anyway for all the responses.
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I have no idea what i'm talking about with diesels, so ignore me if you wanna keep it simple and sensible. But I know the Jag S-Type 2.7 V6 diesel, and Land Rover Discovery3 2.7 V6 diesel, are two vehicles which share the same highly acclaimed unit which isn't in any way short of grunt, and they're now powering their way into breakers yards - and the strong Ford connection with those two could also be helpful..? And do you think those two engines will be cheap? |
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