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Aug 23, 2006 14:27:36 GMT
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Heyyyy, Anyone built their own garage at home? What did you go for, wood, brick, breeze block? Did you build it yourself or get a builder on the case? At what point do you need planning permission? I plan to build a garage of some sort at the GF's house and am looking into it now, if anyone has any garage-building wisdom to impart i'd love to hear it. I'm just scanning the net looking at wooden garages to buy and assemble, and found this quality picture.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Rob
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Aug 23, 2006 14:36:16 GMT
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that picture is fantabulous... if i built garages for a living I'm sure it wouldnt be too hard to take a picture of a real garage in a real garden with a real car ?? FFS !
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Rob
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You know, for kids!
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Aug 23, 2006 14:38:01 GMT
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by the way... i used to have use of a double breeze block garage - had a pit and electricity - what else do you need ?
as big as you can with leccy should do it,,,
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Aug 23, 2006 14:39:30 GMT
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Why didn’t they just take a picture of an aircraft carrier steaming out of there or maybe one of those massive new Airbus passenger jets being worked on by an army of happy engineers!!!
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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building a garagearthurbrown
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Aug 23, 2006 14:44:27 GMT
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Do it with brick / blockwork.
Shouldn't really cost much more plus will last 4evAr. Just make sure it's nicely ventilated.
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building a garageBenzBoy
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Aug 23, 2006 14:54:13 GMT
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LOL! What a random picture. An inspection pit would be feckin' excellent. I'd kill for one. Not a clue how to go about building one... didn't bstardchild or someone have some trouble with their garage roof and a dodgy builder?
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Aug 23, 2006 14:58:14 GMT
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PP not required so long as house not listed or in conservation area, garage and other buildings/additions won’t cover more than half of land around house, it’s for domestic use (not business), less than 3m high (or 4m high to ridge of pitched roof), not in front garden unless more than 20m to front of new building, and keep it minimum 5m from house or they treat it as an extension.
Building Regulations not required if <30m2, but as that’s a technical not subjective thing like Planning it’s not usually a problem and fee isn’t that great. In any case, Planning Fee is ‘only’ £135 so don’t compromise the best option for you by trying to make it exempt (like people buying knackered pre-73 cars just because they’re tax exempt).
As Antdat will testify, get a decent design done for your roof if you want to do anything like have a lifting beam (or in his case, just keep water out).
What you want is one of those lovely 1960’s reinforced concrete, asbestos roof and timber double-door jobbies, with tins of aged wax, half-used paint etc stacked on what was once the kitchen china cupboard at the end.
P.S. Sniggering so violently at BB's garage pic I had to leave the room......
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Aug 23, 2006 15:01:28 GMT
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What you want is one of those lovely 1960’s reinforced concrete, asbestos roof and timber double-door jobbies, with tins of aged wax, half-used paint etc stacked on what was once the kitchen china cupboard at the end. Ha ha, got one of those already! Think I am going to try, using a massive hammer, to make it into hardcore for a concrete base for a proper garage. Looks like none of those requirements will be a problem from a planning permission POV.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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building a garagearthurbrown
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Aug 23, 2006 15:03:49 GMT
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Ha ha, got one of those already! Think I am going to try, using a massive hammer, to make it into hardcore for a concrete base for a proper garage. . Good luck! I'd wazz down the hire shop and get a jack-hammer thing for £20 for the weekend. Sledgehammer takes fookin ages. And all the 'bits' go everywhere. Believe me!
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building a garageBenzBoy
@benzboy
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Aug 23, 2006 15:04:28 GMT
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Oh yeah it was Antdat with the builders probs - did that ever get resolved?
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Aug 23, 2006 15:04:40 GMT
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I chose wood for mine. My last garage was concrete and I was never that happy with it. Concrete, and to an extent breeze block and even brick garages can suffer more in terms of damp and cold and echos. A wood garage helps self regulate its tempterature a bit, so its cooler in summer and warmer in winter. A wood garage deadens sound within it - meaning its better for you and also less compaints from the neighbours. Timber breathes and the garage doesn;t suffer condensation or damp. I have left panels in bare metal over winter in the timber garage for several weeks with no rust starting whereas in my old concrete garage they would flash rust in a couple of days. Timber looks nicer than block or concrete sectional. On a large garage timber looks nicer than brick IMO which can look a bit like a factory unit. As I understand it a timber building needs less planning consent than a brick one. A timber garage will have a greater internal area for the same external dimensions as the timber is not as thick as brick or block. Its about equal on a concrete sectional garage. Timber (assuming it is managed lumber) is a better building material for the environment. www.warwickbuildings.co.uk suppliedmine and I cannot recommend them highly enough. Mine was erected in a day by the supplier. I had to supply a concrete base with a single brick course to their plan. Wiring in a garage needs to be done to code and either done by a certified electrician or you can get an electrical certificate done afterwards. I needed buildign regs approval and I also needed building inspection visits, which reminds me I need to arrange a completed works visit soon too.
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Aug 23, 2006 15:06:43 GMT
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Aug 23, 2006 15:09:38 GMT
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Oh, I got my mate Phill to sot the electrics while I passed screw drivers etc. You will need a consumer unit in the garage and a suitable (armoured) cable in the ground to supply it. Make sure you put the garage on its own circuit off the main house consumer unit or faults in the garage could take out your whole domestic ring main.
Even if you believe you do not require planning permission for your garage its best to send an outline plan to the council planning dept. They will wrote back for free to say no plannign is required and when you sell the house this letter will save you a load of hassle with your buyers solicitor. I had an extension I rebuilt like for like at the old house and because I have verbal not written confirmation that no permission was needed the buyers solicitor gave me some stick about "unapproved alterations" and stuff. Went though OK in the end though.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Aug 23, 2006 15:09:48 GMT
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PP not required so long as house not listed or in conservation area, haha I've got a listed house in a conservation area ... Hmm ... but then seeing there is no way to get a car to where my house is I think think it matters much .... I'd love a garage one day,.. that would be the bestest ever....
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Aug 23, 2006 15:11:11 GMT
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And AFAIK - inspection pits do not meet building regs? Someone told me if I wanted one in muine to do it AFTER the final inspection when the woks were all signed off by the borough surveyor and not before. I also went to see a house fo r sale when we moved which had a garage with a pit and it had been filled in because the seller had been told he had to fill it in before he could sell it!
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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bstardchild
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building a garagebstardchild
@bstardchild
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Aug 23, 2006 15:30:24 GMT
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And AFAIK - inspection pits do not meet building regs? Someone told me if I wanted one in muine to do it AFTER the final inspection when the woks were all signed off by the borough surveyor and not before. I also went to see a house fo r sale when we moved which had a garage with a pit and it had been filled in because the seller had been told he had to fill it in before he could sell it! I mentioned the possibility of a pit to the planner who came out for a preliminary visit when I was planning to extend my garage his words were - "I didn't hear that and don't even think about it" As he left he said "mind you when it's all up and finished and passed inspection if you want to lower the floor in an area for some reason we would never know!" Final inspection is tied into the house extension so I've got to wait a while yet but it's getting closer ;D
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Aug 23, 2006 15:39:06 GMT
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It has to be no more than 4 metres high, not cover more than 50% of the garden, not be permanent 9no foundations into the ground) and not be nearer to a public right of way than the main building. I bought a pallet load of 6x2, a stack of MDF sheets and a pallet of tongue and groove and knocked up my own workshop with the occasional help of a couple of mates. Here's 10 steps to happyness... 1. Choose suitable site and begin banging bits of wood together, making it all up as you go ;D 2. Once the basic frame is made then go for the overkill by then adding twice as much wood as it really needs. 3. Lift building a few inches off the ground and shutter round the outside. Line floor with polythene and mesh. 4. get nice man with lorry to pour in 7 tonnes of concrete. 5. Chop up T&G and screw every piece on using about 3 and a half thousand screws. Nice and secure. Note 100A work platform 6. Fill wall cavities (and doors) with insulation. 7. Line all the walls with 28mm MDF. 8. Fit 4 inch thich insulated doors that are rather heavy 9. Glaze windows and roof with sterling board then metal roof sheets. 10. Fill with rusty tat and junk and start using it and thus never quite finish fitting the gutters, facias etc. ;D
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John
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Aug 23, 2006 15:41:40 GMT
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If your garage / shed etc is made of a combustible material then it must be more than, I think, 1 metre from a shared boundary.
I built my garage. 29 metre square, pitched roof 3.9metres high, 6 cubic metres concrete in the base (pumped in, best money I ever spent), breeze block walls, rendered and painted.
I bought a circular saw and built a roof then, felt and tiles.
Wiring. You can do your own but it needs checking out for about £70.
Check out the Screw Fix forums for loads of good advice.
John
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Aug 23, 2006 16:01:36 GMT
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PP not required so long as house not listed or in conservation area, haha I've got a listed house in a conservation area ... Hmm ... but then seeing there is no way to get a car to where my house is I think think it matters much .... I'd love a garage one day,.. that would be the bestest ever.... I always wanted a garage Now i own a flat with a garage and driveway Now i long after a bigger garage. alistairk - you're garage is the stuff dreams are made of
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Aug 23, 2006 17:21:18 GMT
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Ratdats looks bigger and comfier to me
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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