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Aug 12, 2006 20:58:09 GMT
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I've been wondering if it's worth doing this to the KP30. In my parts left over from the breaking of my starlet turbo i've got a sard fan controller which i can wire into my water temp sender for my water temp gauge and use that to adjust the point/temp where the fan kicks in. Can soon get the relay etc from owrk for nowt. Will just need to get a fan from ebay or scrap yard Worth doing?
Simon
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Aug 12, 2006 21:02:48 GMT
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Well, it can free up a little power, let the engine rev a little more willingly (of course, depending on the type of fan fitted first anyway)........can boost your economy a fraction too. In all cases you're talking fraction of a BHP, MPG, whatever. But every little helps! ;D Ya, it's probably worth doing
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Aug 12, 2006 21:05:28 GMT
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One thing to watch for with electric fans is that because the are un shrouded they tend to only draw air through a small area of the rad which can make them less efficient in some cases than an engine driven fan. This only really applies to quite big rads though.
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Aug 12, 2006 21:07:36 GMT
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the main advantage of having an elec fan is faster warm up on cold days i usually convert all my cars to a manual switched fan as i only tend to do short hops the dis advantages of the manual fan youve GOT to remember to switch it on in TRAFFIC or ya boils up (not good) andy
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Aug 12, 2006 21:16:45 GMT
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Sounds like it's worth doing as i have all the bits. Need to get some new oil likes made up so i can get my oil cooler/remote filter fitted from the old car too.
Simon
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I just read issue 2 of Retro Cars which has an article about doing this. I'm thinking it will have to be done. Particularly after the car nearly overheated in the M25 traffic the day before CaRS!
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Any chance of a scan mate i'm pretty sure what i'm doing with everything but would be nice to have a read and as they only seem to sell the last 4 issues from back order.
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thats something i keep forgeting todo install a better fan or 2 and have it manually operated........i don't think it works at all ATM
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Aug 13, 2006 10:12:48 GMT
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i put an electric fan from a cavalier turbo diesal on the carlton after the viscous fan packed up and fried my head gasket. the cav unit has a good shroud and fitted the carlton rad perfectly with the use of some monster cable ties on the rad suport.
grab a tape measure and get down the scrappy. 10 quid very well spent. just rember to cut the fan wiring a good length .
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slater
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Aug 13, 2006 10:22:51 GMT
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just make sure its on a perminant live... unlike crappy fords
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Aug 13, 2006 18:47:48 GMT
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Why would you want it on a permenant live? More chance of cutting your fingers then... LOL Bloody VWs.
Make a shroud to help airflow.
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Aug 14, 2006 10:03:19 GMT
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It's a good idea. I junked the viscous on my Merc and lobbed on a leccy one from a Mk3 Cav SRi - works perfect. Ideally I'd like one of those controllable temp switches like you get with the Kenlowe kits, as the sensor I have on mine is for an OHV Ford and kicks in a bit hotter than I'd like. Still works fine and keeps the car cool though!
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Aug 14, 2006 10:16:52 GMT
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Certainly worth it just never fit an electric fan that's only manually operated because at some point you will forget to switch it on.
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Aug 14, 2006 10:34:48 GMT
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Yeah wiring up a thermo switch isn't all that hard (in fact, pretty much the same as a manual switch apart from the location...) so I wouldn't bother with a manual switch. I might be tempted to stick a manual switch on as well as a thermo switch, just in case things get a bit too hot, but I've never had any trouble
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Aug 14, 2006 10:47:21 GMT
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Make sure it´s wired in properly! Mine has 2 Kenlowe and they draw loads of power. They should have been wired up indepenantly but they were wired together and melted the wiring and blew the fuse. I then had massive wire put in and then the Switch blew and so did the fuse. Bigger fuse put in and then the switch blew. New switch put in and then the Relay melted, whilst in the que to get in Santa pod. New big relay and new fuse and then the Head Gasket went! Hardly surprising really. Now she is having the heads done because of this. I just hope the Fans don´t let the engine down again!
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slater
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Aug 14, 2006 12:15:30 GMT
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With the fiesta the fan switches off on the ignition so after a long motorway run you pull into the service station, switch off the ignition, the fan stops, car boils up because of the heat soak effect you get. You have to rember to leave the igniton on when you stop but that dosent do the coil much good! Then theres the dodgey ford thermostats that randomly stop working.
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Aug 14, 2006 13:29:21 GMT
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With the fiesta the fan switches off on the ignition so after a long motorway run you pull into the service station, switch off the ignition, the fan stops, car boils up because of the heat soak effect you get. You have to rember to leave the igniton on when you stop but that dosent do the coil much good! Then theres the dodgey ford thermostats that randomly stop working. My set up uses a Fiesta fan switch!
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Aug 14, 2006 14:26:27 GMT
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ummmmm....... surely if the fan continues to run when the ignition is left on, then it's already electric (as opposed to one coupled to the engine). If this is the case it sounds like it's been wired in to a switched live instead of a permenant one. modern cars have a permenant live feed to the fan so they can continue to run after the ignition is switched off for exactly the reason you describe. it's odd that your fezza doesn't, but it may just be too old. find the live, whack it directly to a permenant live (to the battery via a fuse if needed) and it should work. **edit** that was weird.... proboards didn't show this as a two-page thread, hence me pointing out rather unnecessarily that your fezzer already has an electric fan! i thought you started the thread
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Last Edit: Aug 14, 2006 17:53:54 GMT by Pillock
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