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Sept 22, 2011 21:12:55 GMT
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tontoe
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Sept 22, 2011 21:18:54 GMT
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My opinion if its standard ish go for good quality standard good quality mintex etc pads greenstuff etc you will find very wooden for day to day driving
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life is just a game we play
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Sept 22, 2011 21:24:58 GMT
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Sept 22, 2011 21:29:22 GMT
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but there not mintex , there some other make, but look like good 'standard' pads.. you can tell by the look of the friction material? I agree with the above. Decent quality standard pads if the car is mechanically otherwise standard  |
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tontoe
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Sept 22, 2011 21:32:02 GMT
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Pop down to a local part supplier they will probarbly be able to supply you with some good quality ones from a part number
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Sept 22, 2011 21:44:49 GMT
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right so they most liley will be mintex ones?! and no one near me anywhere will do anything pre @84 hence why i am residing to eGay.. thankg guys looks like my third link pads would do.
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ChasR
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Sept 23, 2011 6:59:16 GMT
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I would not have EBC on my car again if you paid me, in either standard format (their Reg90 pads) or their Greenstuff items.
The M1144s are pricier for a reason; they are leagues ahead in braking performance. They did seem to transform my 205 brakes.
Brake fluid will also influence your braking performance more than you think.
Back on topic, some good OE spec pads should do the job for your requirements. Bendix, Pagid and Mintex pads I would say are a safe bet (on my 306, the Pagid pads I bought were actually ATE pads when the box was opened).
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Sept 23, 2011 7:35:36 GMT
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+1 for Mintex & a brake fluid change to som Dot5. Changing up good to good quality brakes is a bit like when you finally give in and replace a set of manky windscreen wipers for a beautifully clear view. You wonder why you didn't do it sooner  |
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Sept 23, 2011 11:08:13 GMT
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Unless you've replaced everything in the braking system, don't put DOT 5 (silicone) in. It doesn't mix with ordinary brake fluid.
Silicone fluid has the advantage that it is not hygroscopic. However, any water that does find it's way into the system will just pool in the lowest spot (often wheel cylinders), and boil at the worst possible moment. DOT 5 is also supposed to give quite a spongy pedal feel.
If you want to upgrade your brake fluid, go for DOT 5.1 - it's a higher-specification 'regular' brake fluid, rather than silicone.
I've no experience with 'standard' EBC pads, I'm afraid. However, for a standard car greenstuff is a complete waste of time. When my Dad bought his (standard, 1800cc) MGB it had greenstuff pads, and the brake had no bite at all: you had to push hard just to slow from 30. He fitted a set of standard pads (maybe mintex - not sure) and the brakes were tranformed.
I think the only situation where greenstuff pads are worthwhile is where you're running a car on track and have suffered fade with the standard pads - at least you can keep them properly hot in that situation.
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Sept 23, 2011 13:22:55 GMT
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It's not unknown for Greenstuff pads to just disintegrate either, I know of a couple of Dollys and Mx-5s that's occurred on. For a virtually stock, but low car, standard good pads will be more than adequate.
Jrevillug, didn't realise DOT 5.1 isn't silicone, thanks for that tip.
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Sept 23, 2011 14:01:26 GMT
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I ran ultimax in the MR2 for a while, but wouldnt touch green stuff if you paid me after nearly putting my 205 through a hedge with them.
Swapped from EBC drilled grooved discs + Green stuff pads to Tarox G88 discs +Tarox pads felt like a new car after that.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Sept 23, 2011 20:17:30 GMT
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cheers guys this has been great help, and hopefully helped others too! and thanks for the tip onfluid, will get 5.1 NOT dot 5 thanks all |
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ChasR
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Sept 23, 2011 20:27:20 GMT
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I've no experience with 'standard' EBC pads, I'm afraid. However, for a standard car greenstuff is a complete waste of time. When my Dad bought his (standard, 1800cc) MGB it had greenstuff pads, and the brake had no bite at all: you had to push hard just to slow from 30. He fitted a set of standard pads (maybe mintex - not sure) and the brakes were tranformed. I think the only situation where greenstuff pads are worthwhile is where you're running a car on track and have suffered fade with the standard pads - at least you can keep them properly hot in that situation. I would agree (Tarox pads are an improvement from then but some of theirs on certain cars need a good stamp to make them work) but other 'Fast road/track' pads are fine in all conditions. On the car I tried with Ferodo DS2500 pads (a 306 GTi-6) the bite was fine from cold and they braked very well. The M1144s in the 205 have transformed the brakes (even from cold there is a marked improvement. When the going gets tough they really do bring you to a halt rather swiftly). Again, they seemed fine on a Clio 172 as well (As that had grooved discs, I thought the good initial bite was down to them, but considering the 205 bites just as well on stock discs I am not so sure now). When I put the larger brakes on the 106 with M1155s I shall see how they fare (the stock 106 items now feel awful compared to the 205 brakes but they were never great on the 106 for some reason). In the Mondeo on EBC's Reg90 pads, I remember thinking I was going to go into the back of someone who pulled out in front of me from quite a distance. Bar an MG Midget with awful brakes (they were never great in the Midgets from the start) I don't think I have ever stamped that hard on a brake pedal. Even the Halfords branded pads afterwards were a revelation! The Clio on Greenstuff as per your MGB had no cold bite. The owner said on track they were ok but would soon fade anyway!). Anyway, that's my rant on EBC's offerings (a shame as their mounting biking stuff seems to be great!). As for brake fluid, alot of DOT 4 stuff can be superior to DOT 5.1. Motul RB400 and ATE Super Blue (I use the latter and it is cheaper than the former) are two examples of DOT 4 that exceeds the specifications. |
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Last Edit: Sept 23, 2011 20:28:49 GMT by ChasR
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