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Sept 15, 2011 21:43:55 GMT
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Love it or hate it its one of the most sought after and controversial modifications out there.
Weather you know anything about it or not what are your thoughts on this image???
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Sept 15, 2011 21:52:57 GMT
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If it was an active system like the Xantia used, I'd like it!
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Koos
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Dez
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Sept 15, 2011 22:19:22 GMT
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i think its a reasonably clever idea- retrofitted to cheapo ebay coilovers i guess?
i suppose its the best way of getting uprated damping and shorter strut bodies at a sensible price. theoretically you can see it as a bolt-on airbag kit too, bolt to coilovers then fit to car. providing it all seals ok, id run it.
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Sept 15, 2011 22:34:30 GMT
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Look at the image and thing about the engineering aspect?
Des I have major respect for your creations surely you can spot the deliberate mistake??
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Dez
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Sept 15, 2011 22:57:37 GMT
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i cant see what I'm supposed to have missed? might just be being thick/tired tonight, but looks like a fairly conventional strut-bag setup to me?
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Philj
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Sept 16, 2011 0:34:23 GMT
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Its not actually bolted to the coilover rings, technically an mot fail, like a cut spring that bops about when you jack it up... Unless its welded to the ring?
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Last Edit: Sept 16, 2011 0:36:37 GMT by Philj
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Sept 16, 2011 6:33:34 GMT
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I had a set of these bag - Uvair aerosport. They have a sleeve inside, so are 100% sealed. Bought them to air up the front of my Lupo, but they were a bit too wide to fit inside the strut tower.
Sitting them on some adjustable coilovers means you can properly tune the effective spring rate at your desired ride height.
Those two threaded holes in the bottom don't pass all the way into the bag, and those bags should really be used with a steel base plate that bolts through those holes.
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prey
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Sept 16, 2011 7:42:10 GMT
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all i know is some bags is my next big 'want' list purchase
so if anyone has an advice on setups/where to buy/has any kicking about - let me know!
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MrSpeedy
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Sept 16, 2011 10:40:36 GMT
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Its not actually bolted to the coilover rings, technically an mot fail, like a cut spring that bops about when you jack it up... Unless its welded to the ring? Not strictly true If the spring(bag) reseats itself upon settling then it's not a fail IIRC A lot of the Landrover/Rangerover/forest murderers etc use a big cone on the axle inside the coil spring to guide them back into place (possibly incorrect info as not an mot tester, but that's my understanding) |
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pepe
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Sept 16, 2011 15:28:34 GMT
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pepe
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Sept 16, 2011 15:29:51 GMT
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tbh tho you could always bang some bolts in the two holes and get a big washer that would hold them on surely??
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Sept 16, 2011 15:52:31 GMT
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That bag is not designed to run without full suport,
It needs to be bolted to a secure steel or alloy plate.
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Dez
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Sept 16, 2011 18:48:16 GMT
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it wouldnt concern me tbh.
the endplate of a bag is significantly thicker than the original spring cup ever was. as long as its a good fit diameter wise to the coilover collar(if i was doing it id make it a press fit) then its more than strong enough for the task at hand.
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