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Sept 14, 2011 19:38:00 GMT
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Definitely worth posting, but the poke is a bit extreme for me...it makes a really well executed car look like it's trying too hard. That said, I still like it. On the subject of rollin' fat rubber: It's a win.
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CIH
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Sept 14, 2011 19:41:52 GMT
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Not keen for reasons already stated but it looks sick right there.
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2011 19:43:55 GMT by CIH
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Bagged S4Deleted
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Sept 14, 2011 19:52:58 GMT
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VAG with slam, but no stretch/poke/dish glad you posted this pic as i've been thinking about these rims for my a4 T sport its currently got the slam but the stock 16" sport rims look wrong on it so was thinking of getting set of 19" S line rims but didn't know how they would look
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Bagged S40rangepeel
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Sept 14, 2011 19:56:49 GMT
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Proper race cars rocking proper dish have proper tyres. End of. The Z and the S4 aren't race cars though... Granted, but they're borrowing plenty from motorsport. I just think the balance on both of those cars is really quite wrong. That brown Gloria has it right, sidewall-wise
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Sept 14, 2011 20:04:19 GMT
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The S4 makes me feel old, it leaves me cold even though it is beautifully finished. It's just, well, too modern to get me going.....
No harm in it being posted, we love discussing this sort of thing, but for my own tastes it is another example of stuff appearing on here that is too new for my retro taste buds.
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Bagged S4Dez
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Sept 14, 2011 20:36:02 GMT
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the silver audi above just looks like a stock sportier model like a S-line or something to me tbh. unless id been told, I wouldnt know its had the mods it has.
fat rubber handles miles worse than stretched tyres. stretch is a motorsport thing originally- so the idea 'proper race cars run proper tyres' is utter rubbish. it makes your sidewalls stiffer so you don't get tyre roll. you don't get that horrible lurching feeling in corners, and its easier to predict when your tyres will break away. granted its been taken to extremes by VW scenesters stretching for no reason other than to outstretch each other (like the OP car, which would look great with wheels 3/4" narrower, but as is looks rubbish), but a little stretch to stiffen your sidewalls or tuck your rims into arches aint a bad thing.
on the subject of the OP, its a pretty good car ruined by a couple of sceney things. the gun stickers on the rims are utter gheyness. i don't think the rim colour gels with the rest of the car either. it doesnt match anything else on it so looks odd. the car looks so much better in the B+W pic cos of this. i quite like the interior and the simple blackness of the rest of it though.
airbags do not ruin the handling of a car. a good setup will handle better with less roll than springs. a lot of people are starting to fit bags for performance rather than asthetic reasons these days just look at the current pro-touring musclecar style thats emerging from the states for proof of this.
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2011 20:38:53 GMT by Dez
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Sept 14, 2011 20:51:17 GMT
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For me this is a winner. I bet it drives great, handles stunningly and goes like stink. With a stance like that it really looks like it means business. All that poke and stretch malarky just doesnt cut the mustard.
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Bagged S40rangepeel
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Sept 14, 2011 22:00:23 GMT
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fat rubber handles miles worse than stretched tyres. stretch is a motorsport thing originally- so the idea 'proper race cars run proper tyres' is utter rubbish. it makes your sidewalls stiffer so you don't get tyre roll. you don't get that horrible lurching feeling in corners, and its easier to predict when your tyres will break away. I'd honestly love to see some pictures of race cars with stretched tyres, that are less than 25 years old. Every competitive car I see nowadays (and from my youth, I'm 34) runs a square shouldered, full-width tyre. Stiff sidewalls are engineered in by the manufacturer for most sporting tyres, the glaring exception being the utter curse word that are Yokohama Paradas, and of course drag slicks.
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Sept 14, 2011 22:09:25 GMT
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airbags do not ruin the handling of a car. a good setup will handle better with less roll than springs. Really? really!! ? it seems that somebody should inform all of the sports car manufacturers searching for a perfect set up and wasting their time with dampers and springs then
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BenKH
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Sept 14, 2011 22:12:13 GMT
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I'd honestly love to see some pictures of race cars with stretched tyres, that are less than 25 years old. Cyber Evo, stretched tyres and the fastest car in the current and previous World Time Attack series, not the most powerful either
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Bioshock
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Sept 15, 2011 4:26:57 GMT
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I bet that isn't bagged either
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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Sept 15, 2011 6:13:13 GMT
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Bagged S40rangepeel
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Sept 15, 2011 7:26:56 GMT
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Cyber Evo, stretched tyres and the fastest car in the current and previous World Time Attack series, not the most powerful either Interesting. Handling on the limit looks, err, 'challenging'. I do wonder whether the stretch has been engineered in to counteract a characteristic of a particular control tyre used for the series? I notice the previous Cyber Evo has a different setup. From a purely aesthetic point-of-view, I honestly prefer it. Also prefer the current Cyber Evo with no livery and no stretch...
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VIP
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Sept 15, 2011 8:18:58 GMT
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airbags do not ruin the handling of a car. a good setup will handle better with less roll than springs. Really? really!! ? it seems that somebody should inform all of the sports car manufacturers searching for a perfect set up and wasting their time with dampers and springs then Al, yes, really! But fully adjustable airspring suspension is a lot more expensive than a spring/damper combo, hence it's not used in mainstream manufacturing. The 'shockwave' fully adjustable air-ride set-up for my Cutlass, which is designed for track use, cost $4000 for example.
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Bagged S40rangepeel
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Sept 15, 2011 8:43:48 GMT
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Really? really!! ? it seems that somebody should inform all of the sports car manufacturers searching for a perfect set up and wasting their time with dampers and springs then Al, yes, really! But fully adjustable airspring suspension is a lot more expensive than a spring/damper combo, hence it's not used in mainstream manufacturing. The 'shockwave' fully adjustable air-ride set-up for my Cutlass, which is designed for track use, cost $4000 for example. Not sure that's true if you're talking fully-adjustable performance kit. Price up a 4-way system from Intrax and see how much change you get out of six grand. As for your aforementioned Pro-Touring Muscle Cars, again this is something new to me and I'm interested to see how they develop. This Camaro for cornering looks decent, but I'm guessing we're not talking Nurburgring lap times just yet. Bags vs Springs is apples and oranges, tbh. Bags have been around for a good while, and you can rest assured that race development engineers have trialled them on all manner of applications. Yet springs remain the solution.
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Sept 15, 2011 9:54:26 GMT
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On a race car I'm guessing the weight penalties of lines, tanks and a compressor as well as the known race surfaces mean the requirement for the kind of adjustability air affords isn't necessary. That's not to say that air can't be used in a performance application though.
This Porsche has air and it's quick:
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Bagged S40rangepeel
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Sept 15, 2011 10:49:00 GMT
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Great find, that's seriously interesting - Shock, Airbag, Spring & Helper Spring in one unit. Quite mental. They got the right guy to test it too!
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ZXRob
Europe
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Sept 15, 2011 11:10:07 GMT
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The one in the original post is a little too much for me. This one has the same ingredients (which I am a little bored of seeing) and works better in my opinion. But this is much more to my taste
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