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Jul 31, 2006 15:56:14 GMT
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yo! had a quick look over this 104 today, i was thinking it would be ropey and ripe for spring cutting and big wheels. but looking over it its almost mint!!! i don't believe it would be right do play about with this too much. it has only 10k miles, and the interior is like new. no joke! the only rust i could find was a tiny amount on the edge of the bonnet and a small amount on the sill that i have circled. it has some tax and mot till january. what should i be expecting this to reach if i was to put on ebay or sell to someone who would want one of these? as to be honest, its retro but its not really what I'm after and its way too good to modify or hack about in. i could do a quick sell on and buy something i really want if its going to make some profit. any ideas anyone. also some info on the model, 104 zl, would be appreciated! btw its like new! cheers! pics:-      it looks like the sort of thing that an old boy has had from new, kept in a garage and used once in a blue moon. |
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Jul 31, 2006 16:10:14 GMT
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what cash does he want for it?
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Jul 31, 2006 16:10:36 GMT
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Our man 104ZS is gonna SPEND HIS WAD when he sees that, it is freakin awesome! 10,000 miles!!! Amazing. Obviously you must buy it at once.
I think it will be extremely difficult to give you a decent guide price for it on Ebay, but a really shonky one sold on there a week or so ago for £250. I reckon it'd make £750 or so? total stab in the dark like.
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Last Edit: Jul 31, 2006 16:12:23 GMT by Mr_Bo11ox
1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT! |
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Jul 31, 2006 16:12:19 GMT
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id rather keep that under my hat for the moment. need an unbiased idea of how much it would sell for.
but put it this way, its cheap enough for me to want to buy it anyway even if i don't sell it on.
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Jul 31, 2006 16:13:40 GMT
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ooftastic!! I would guess being a minter would have littel effext on its value as no one seems to want these really.
I'd say your looking at only a few hundred!
get it in!
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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awoo
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Jul 31, 2006 16:21:47 GMT
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ok how many few hundred you recon? i would only have about £300 to spend on it
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Jul 31, 2006 16:22:28 GMT
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There were only 8 ZL models left on the road according to DVLA at the end of 2004 when I last got figures from them. Needless to say I'm sure thats less now. The average Samba price is £250 at the same age if MOTd. Please don't hack it around, its getting to rare now for RHD models would be a real waste, and its the 954cc engine like mine so no ball or fire. Id buy it!!
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Jul 31, 2006 16:27:41 GMT
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^^^ yeah man i hear you on that, i don't want to hack it at all after looking at it. i know its abit shallow to say but if i can sell it on and make some profit i could buy something more appropriate
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Jul 31, 2006 16:28:54 GMT
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*ooof* - buy it !
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Jul 31, 2006 16:29:50 GMT
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hell have we Retro Rides bidding auction going on!? In actually thinking of Peugeot 104 / Talbot Samba / Citroen LN & LNA - 35 year gathering next October for mark the launch at the Paris Motor Show in 1972 so need to find as many owners of this cool little motors !
OK in answer really to checking it over - look for ROT !
Take a trolly jack along and jack the car up under the front jacking points, any rot will soon show as the jack will disapear in to the hollow section its make from (stupid design). Normally expect welding around this part of the floor so lift the carpets both sides.
They rot well on the inner wings, most 104s don't have original wings on the outer masking the condition of the inners.
They rot well in the boot around floor and strut mountings, not seen one that has'nt. Also the fuel tank mounting bracket on the drivers side is a rot spot.
There should be a spare wheel sat on top the engine, lift it out and check all the pipework and leaks are bad news on this cooling system.
If you can remove the plastic access panel to the bulkhead, and check for terminal rot inside.
The engine should start in this hot weather without choke or throttle but they all need a bit of cranking to get fuel up on the mechanical engine driven pump. It should instantly tick over, if its lumpy or needs reving expect the dizzy to need setting up correctly, using genuine Peugeot or Citroen parts as aftermarket ones are knaff for this model. When the engine is hot expect the electric fan to cut in and out, if it doesnt its death.
If it has electronic ignition you'll see the sensor on the flywheel straight as you look down.
It should drive and shift gear smoothly, make sure there is 10/40 in the sump or it makes things difficult, also lack of oil means shifting gears are crunchy.
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Jul 31, 2006 16:43:49 GMT
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cool, think ill give them a ring this evening and have a proper look at it with view to buy!
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Jul 31, 2006 16:50:33 GMT
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Go and get it! As for this 'leave it alone' malarkey...? Well I say get modifying! As long as you're not planning to chop the roof off or dally with the bulkhead etc, then anything you do can be un-done.  |
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Jul 31, 2006 16:50:58 GMT
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other thoughts is if the steering wheel is off centre doesnt mean its had a crunch, the 104 series often can only be adjusted for tracking on one side. Its real fiddly to get right so most kwack fits just get one wheel in line then wind the other to the right place.
Use valvemaster £8.49 in Halfrauds or Millers VSP, this engine will low miles will run unleaded without adjustment but doesnt have hardened seats as far as I know. I always put it in my 104 and it runs sweet, will hold 75-80 on the motorway no problem, but the 954 doesnt have much oomph left after that.
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Jul 31, 2006 16:53:30 GMT
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Buy it and sell it to 205tastic. She'll love it like a baby!!
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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Jul 31, 2006 17:26:20 GMT
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Jul 31, 2006 17:33:28 GMT
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Dammit!! I've got my beady eye on that bad-ass mofo! Contacted the owner who doesn't really know a great deal about it..... She says the radiator 'Fully gushes'!!!  Anyone out there know if the rad's shared with anything else in the PSA range?? |
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Jul 31, 2006 18:04:42 GMT
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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Jul 31, 2006 20:25:34 GMT
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Dammit!! I've got my beady eye on that bad-ass mofo! Contacted the owner who doesn't really know a great deal about it..... She says the radiator 'Fully gushes'!!! Anyone out there know if the rad's shared with anything else in the PSA range?? You're bound to be able to pilfer one off a Talbot Samba or something. If you buy it and are stuck, i'll be able to get you one over here no probs. |
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Jul 31, 2006 20:40:22 GMT
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Sweet Bo11ox, just checked it again & the time left has increased!!!
When i got home from work earlier it was on 21 hours left or thereabouts, just had another scope & it 3 days & 18 fuggin hours!!!
WTF???
Might go & give it the once over as it's only a few miles from my joint.....
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Jul 31, 2006 22:57:08 GMT
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contact Dean at Peugeot Parts for a rad new or second hand, www.peugeotparts.co.uk to go on that LNA. It needs saving too.. Glad to learn that the ZL has now found a save harbour! |
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