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Jul 27, 2006 11:20:41 GMT
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As mentioned in alfietinkers thread, my dad had one that he fixed the front end and resprayed, well smart, i should try find a pic to attach to this thread later... Anyway, i have always liked em. But why are they so 'affordable' Is it cos: A: They have a big boat anchor guzzly Ford V6 in em? B. Made of glass, so a bit dangerous, flimsy, vunerable? C. Have an old mans car image. D. Drive rubbish? (i dunno) E. Made by a 'joke manufacturer'? F. Cost of running, parts, insurance? G. They don't handle like a sports car? Or summat else, or are they actualy expensive and i'm talkin rubbish! ;D I'm getting seriously perverted thoughts about customising one! Not short of projects, this is one for a later date but still one thats gettin me juices flowing!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 27, 2006 11:32:25 GMT
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Jul 27, 2006 11:40:51 GMT
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I really like 'em. I haven't a clue why they're so cheap - perhaps they're just overlooked by a majority of the classic / retro community? Before I bought my Merc I was in the market for one, but couldn't find one that was any good (i.e.: not a project) at the time.
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Jul 27, 2006 11:43:21 GMT
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There was a rough looking (but complete) Scimitar for sale at the Ford day at Battlesbridge last summer. I can't remember whether it was £30 or £50, but that included a nice pair of Cobra seats. Madness!
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Jul 27, 2006 11:43:50 GMT
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Thats gorgous Skodanorman!
It is wierd isnt it. TBH though i'd want summat cheap to medal with, thinking of chops n cuts n all kinds of Krazy mods, nice idea in theory!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 27, 2006 11:45:22 GMT
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a while ago there was a fully restored SE5 on eBay with a modified engine...nothing too amazing, but still quite nice. it had slotmags, etc, the whole works...it only sold for about £2k...madness - but all the more reason to get out there and buy one!
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Jul 27, 2006 11:47:14 GMT
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They used to be quite expensive and sought after as a classic and values juest seemed to fall off. They have a rather rife reputation for overheating and unreliabiluty (usually electrical problems) and a reputation for leaks, rattles and poor fit.
OTOH, rip the body off and you have a nice strong chassis with a torquey ford V6, tough rear axle and a decent front suspension, ideal to drop anything from a Cobra to a '32 Ford body onto.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 27, 2006 11:47:34 GMT
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It is madness,
So i'm having more daft ideas befor the world notices and begins a buying frenzy and they end up at VW bus prices! LOL
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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rodit
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Jul 27, 2006 11:47:51 GMT
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They were a bit renowned for poor build quality and the electrics can be a mare like a tvr because of double earthing things. This said it has probably one of the best rear axle set up's out of the box for the 1/4 mile so bang a big8 with a blower in the front and go have some budget fun. Recon price could also be due to the fact it's so much harder to repair and paint glass properly compared to steel (although brought a few steel cars someone must have thought should be made of glass) ;D
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Low and slow
Why can't i tune it?
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Jul 27, 2006 11:48:47 GMT
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They used to be quite expensive and sought after as a classic and values juest seemed to fall off. They have a rather rife reputation for overheating and unreliabiluty (usually electrical problems) and a reputation for leaks, rattles and poor fit. OTOH, rip the body off and you have a nice strong chassis with a torquey ford V6, tough rear axle and a decent front suspension, ideal to drop anything from a Cobra to a '32 Ford body onto. Some answers there. I actually like the body design-with tweeks that is.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 27, 2006 11:50:02 GMT
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Popular Classics had one on their fleet and it was always breaking down in quite a high profile manner, that can't have helped their image
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 27, 2006 11:52:13 GMT
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 27, 2006 11:52:26 GMT
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bit like Clarksons GT40! LOL
need to tuck one away in a lock up somewhere and give it the works at some point...
Great answers BTW all.
That green thing is wild
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 27, 2006 11:53:19 GMT
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Clarkeson's was a GT and I don;t think it put many people off owning one.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Jul 27, 2006 13:08:23 GMT
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At the moment they have got to be the best car out there for the money. I have been after one for a while now (as I have posted in the past) and they have lots of potential. Mine would end up as a project with a V8 though. Just need to finish and sell the Escort and possibly the Cortina and then get one before they do sky rocket.
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Last Edit: Jul 27, 2006 13:08:42 GMT by Smiler
www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Jul 27, 2006 13:12:03 GMT
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check out the FS section smiler.
Have you driven one BTW?
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 27, 2006 13:12:44 GMT
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I used to think they had MGB doors, but apparently thats not the case at all. Very similar profile though.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Jul 27, 2006 14:59:10 GMT
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check out the FS section smiler. Have you driven one BTW? Yeah, I borrowed one for a weekend last summer. It was great! Only problem it has was the front bushes had been replaced and the suspension not set up properly after. Above 50mph things got a bit twitchy so I couldn't take full adavantage but it still impressed me enough to want one. Smiler.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Jul 27, 2006 17:30:42 GMT
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A: They have a big boat anchor guzzly Ford V6 in em? - lots of torque B. Made of glass, so a bit dangerous, flimsy, vunerable? - body of the early ones were alluminium (please someone correct me if I'm wrong)
D. Drive rubbish? (i dunno) - only if poorly maintained
I remember a few people i know/knew in the past had overheating and electrical problems
and cheap ones will almost definately need chassis outriggers replacing
wonder if the 2.9 cosworth would perk up the image a little - and overcome the overheating problem, and if the 2.9 wiring harness was used may sort out of the electrical failures too
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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Jul 27, 2006 18:12:53 GMT
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I think we've ironed this question out now. good work. And what a top idea autofive, sling a granny job lot in. Result. Like it. Only prob is it has to be done now!!!!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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