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1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)

uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 14, 2013 20:05:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Apr 14, 2013 18:10:02 GMT atomman said: Evening Dude Coilovers looking good ;D ref the blue plastic top spring mounts I would take the top one off and put the top spring perch off the 280 struts back on as this sits up against the bearing for the steering and takes the load of the front of the car, I trimmed mine down because the springs are a smaller diameter, I do plan on making up a proper spacer later. was there a bearing in there when you took it apart ? strange that oil filled strut to ? it would prob be better to chuck both of them and use mk1 golf inserts, I got some gas ones from GSF for about 20 quid, I ended sectioning my struts but all you need to do if you don't is find a bit of pipe that fits inside the strut and cut it down to fit as a spacer, Also you can use a bit of pipe split into to then welded back onto the strut to make the bottom stop for the adjusters If you need a hand just give me a shout Gary Hi mate, i was actually gonna message you about the top mounts. I'm still looking into options for the upper spring cups. Did you use the blue parts at all?? Got any pics of what you did?? The way i have it now it still runs on the bearings but just playing with it really. I may try MK2 Golf inserts as I'm not sectioning mine yet and they are almost the size of 280ZX inserts apparently!!?? Ive actually got some pipe cut down ready for making the lower spring perch.... more pics coming soon ;D Cheers
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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lukasojc Part of things OJC-holic Posts: 10	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)lukasojc @lukasojc
	Apr 14, 2013 20:15:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	As said before on OJC.com, I really love your Sunny and that you are upgrading it nicely! Can´t wait what you do to the exterieur. L
	1986 Subaru Leone Turismo 1.8 GL 1987 Mitsubishi Pajero 2,5 TD Wagon 1988 Toyota Camry 2.0 GLi Automatic 1999 Volvo S80 2,4 Klassik Automatic

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atomman Part of things Posts: 673	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)atomman @atomman
	Apr 14, 2013 21:00:46 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	heres a pic of mine before i cestioned it, the blue bit is in there under the top perch. not sure on the lenght on the mk2 inserts. I took mine to GSF and they were nice enough to let me go through there inserts checking all the sizes
	Play'in round with an old Datsun & a Ford COE

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 15, 2013 6:55:04 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Cool I may pop down to GSF then I did notice in the above pic that the distance between the top of the spring and the top mounting bolts on yours is quite a lot, thats probably why you had to section your shocks to get low enough!? I'm trying to minimise this distance so I can run standard shock length.... Lets see what happens lol
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 15, 2013 6:56:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Apr 14, 2013 20:15:59 GMT lukasojc said: As said before on OJC.com, I really love your Sunny and that you are upgrading it nicely! Can´t wait what you do to the exterieur. L Thanks ;D I will do some updates on there when i get chance! And as for the outside.... I have some plans.... when funds allow lol
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 16, 2013 15:45:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	MINI UPDATE I may of had a result today, but this depends if I can get these to fit!?!? I managed to get a pair of brand new uprated mk2f Polo front suspension inserts for free just because the guy had no use for them....... Hopefully I can make these fit my 280ZX Struts Length = 341mm Diameter = 46mm (Yes I know it doesnt look like it in the pics lol) Measured from base of insert to top of thread....... Fully extended = 515mm Fully Compressed = 400mm I havent yet compaired these to the single 280ZX strut I have but its worth a try for a freebee Ill try it when I go to my garage this week and let you know
	Last Edit: Apr 16, 2013 17:42:56 GMT by uncle silvia 1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 18, 2013 16:37:32 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	ANOTHER UPDATE Ive been doing a little bit more this week. First i managed to compare the MK2 Polo inserts to the Datsun 280ZX one...... And measured the 280ZX inserts.... So the Polo ones are a fair bit shorter and the body is slightly stepped and the last 1 1/2" doesnt quite fit in the Datsun strut! The only way I can think of making it fit is to slightly grind down that section of the insert down (I think the metal is really thick here and only a minute part needs removing!?). Ill worry about this later and I really want to try a full size MK2 Golf insert....... Does anyone have any measurements for one of these?? Anyway I got one with prepping the rest of the coilover conversion ready for my mate to weld up for me. I had some pipe sections cut down to short sections and given to me for free from the scrap bin of a local fabricators ;D. These will become the new lower spring mounts that will be welded on. I put all the parts together loosely to measure out for the position of welding on the mounts, checking for clearence with the rims and the tyres with the coilovers wound right down...... Coilover and spring mount position before welding, showing clearence with 7.0J Watanabe wheels when wound fully down: Coilover and spring mount position before welding, showing clearence with 9.0J Enkei wheels + 20mm spacers when wound fully down: The complete coilover setup...... And I reconfigred the topmount assembly..... Twin bearing topmount setup using larger 280ZX with smaller 140Y on top...... Much better ;D Ive also prepped the rear coilovers ready for a little modification Stripped down...... This bush and mounting needs removing.... Choppy Choppy ;D Removed........ The top will have a threaded bar welded on so it will mount into the Datsuns rear turrets..... hopefully ;D TO BE CONTINUED..............
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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HoTWire Administrator Posts: 27,139	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)HoTWire @admin
	Apr 18, 2013 21:05:30 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice work I'm currently looking into new front brakes... also rear disc conversion for the Baby Atlus that is going on the back. Yay for stopping!
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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 19, 2013 6:53:24 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Apr 18, 2013 21:05:30 GMT HoTWire said: Nice work I'm currently looking into new front brakes... also rear disc conversion for the Baby Atlus that is going on the back. Yay for stopping! I'll let you know what the 280ZX front brakes are like once fitted. Looking at the size of them compaired to the B310 ones it should make quite a difference. I'm not going all out on mine as its not going to be a track car or anything. Just want better height adjustable suspension so I can get it sitting right and handelling a little better for a spritely B road jaunt, along with changing the tiny front brakes that wouldn't even embarass a mountain bike!! lol ........... then its onto the looks department with some subtle changes ;D
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 24, 2013 18:32:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	REACHING NEW LOWS UPDATE This is where it starts to get interesting welding and fitting time ;D First off I take all the parts to my welder mate to let him work his magic. Cheers Dan Then we position the lower spring perch in the correct position ready for welding and extra holes were drilled in the sides to allow extra welds for strength. Getting his weld on....... First lower perch welded on ;D Continue with number 2......... Happy with that ;D Now to custom make the rear top mounts. First weld on the bolts directly to the top of the shock shaft...... Then slip the top hat over the thread and weld that in position as well for extra strength. Completed pair... Now rebuild the front setup........ The fun bit.......... trial fit to car............ Fit fronts....... A few shots of the rear Monroe shocks and cut down OE springs......... Stock lower bush mounts... Looking up showing lower mount and where the shock mounts to the body Remove all the old suspension............ New (Red) vs old shocks (Blue) New (Red) vs old shocks (Blue) + Old cut down springs Trim back the outer section of the inner arch to allow clearence for the spring and shock to mount correctly. This area is not structural and is only thin steel hence cutting with tin snips lol Trial fitting of the new coilover setup. The cut out section will be tidyied up later. Lower bush actually fitted in the stock lower mounts ;D Top mounted... Thread will be cut down later. Both coilovers fitted..... So after all that I finally get to see how the car sits on its new suspension, obviously set to its lowest setting ;D And on full lock at the front....... I think it sits pretty perfect considering the rear suspension is from an unknown car and is at a fixed non-adjustable height. Could of been made for it lol. I do have to check clearences tho and actually see if the height is realistic to drive with as I think the springs maybe a little soft so may sag even more when loaded up!?!? I can always change to stiffer springs if this is the case. Now all this is together and works, I can strip it all off again and get the suspension painted up and the arches undersealed after getting a few little bits of MOT welding done. Next is to get the front brakes working and fitted......... TO BE CONTINUED ;D
	Last Edit: Apr 24, 2013 18:43:09 GMT by uncle silvia 1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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atomman Part of things Posts: 673	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)atomman @atomman
	Apr 24, 2013 20:01:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	looks pretty dam freakin cool that low, Good work ! I always set mine at the lowest and go from there, you tend to find all the clearnce problems pretty quick then, but my cars always seem to stay that low then lol
	Play'in round with an old Datsun & a Ford COE

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retrolegends Club Retro Rides Member Winging it.....Since 1971. Posts: 3,726 Club RR Member Number: 94	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)retrolegends @retrolegends Club Retro Rides Member 94
	Apr 24, 2013 20:07:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Flipping Eck! That is low! Brilliant work.
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captaindan Kinda New Posts: 9	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)captaindan @captaindan
	Apr 24, 2013 20:23:08 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thats amazing! Awesome looking car and top work on the coilovers!


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stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,954 Club RR Member Number: 174	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)stealthstylz @stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member 174
	Apr 24, 2013 20:33:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	On the rear you really need to add some strength to the top coilover mount. As its usually only the shock mounted there it won't have been designed to take any load. Just a piece of 3-4mm ish plate over the top and stitch welding the seams should be enough.


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deacs Part of things Posts: 260	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)deacs @deacs
	Apr 24, 2013 20:35:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	looks much better that height however I think I would of been inclined to off just got a new set of standard rear springs and chopped them further rather than fit springs and shocks of unknown age/origin/load rating etc. front set up looks good though


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deacs Part of things Posts: 260	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)deacs @deacs
	Apr 24, 2013 20:40:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	are those rear shocks and springs from a old beetle? they look a bit like the ones you can buy for them from here www.machine7.com/section.php?xSec=2236


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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 24, 2013 21:06:44 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I copied the rear coilover conversion from someone else on the Datsun club that's has fitted mk2 escort ones in the same way with no issues! That top mounting area is actually very strong at that point so I've been told several times! Ill keep an eye on it tho! I got the rear coilovers off BRATMAN on here and said he thinks they were off a ford of some sort but not overly sure! It's never gonna be a race car so I just want some sort of damping and easily change springs for height etc. u don't get much choice with these old cars! Still got to be loads better than chopping loads off some springs.
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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brunotheuno Part of things Posts: 113	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)brunotheuno @brunotheuno
	Apr 24, 2013 23:13:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I KNEW IT!! seen this round plymouth loads and loads. Really cool looking motor. I'm more than a little bit jealous lol.


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speedy88 Club Retro Rides Member "Nice Cortina mate" Posts: 2,302 Club RR Member Number: 118	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)speedy88 @speedy88 Club Retro Rides Member 118
	Apr 25, 2013 5:37:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	OOOF! Good work there. Nice talking to you at the beach btw dude, this is certainly the kick up the a*se I need to get coilies sorted on the Stigma.
	Last Edit: Apr 25, 2013 5:39:53 GMT by speedy88 Current: 88 L30 Tercel 80 RA40 Celica '60 Singer Gazelle Mongol Rally car - still own part of this technically? ~~'77 Colt Sigma~~

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uncle silvia Posted a lot Datsun Club UK - Devon & Cornwall Rep Posts: 1,492	1978 B310 Datsun Sunny 140Y Coupe NEW LOWS & De-Rust :)uncle silvia @unclesilvia
	Apr 25, 2013 8:04:12 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Well I'm from Plymouth but have recently moved to Torbay. Ill be down lots tho as all my friends and family are there Ah hello.... Your Sigma is awesome.... Get it slammed :-) I got some nice pics of it at the beach meet if your interested
	1981 KE70 Corolla - 1978 B310 Sunny Coupe - 1977 Pink Clubman Mini Shorty

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