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I've just noticed some really bad grammar in my post My use of "used" looks totally wrong in some of that, but I'm not sure what would be correct?? Esp the bit "bought when I used to live in Wales, used as my daily..." That is wrong? Isn't it?? Would somone kindly tell me what the correct grammar would be?? tY
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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THE_Liam
Yorkshire and The Humber
If at first you don't succeed... HAMMERS.
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I've seen plenty. A 306 I bought had bits of plastic hammered in between the rear beam mount and the beam to try stop it knocking. Another 306 had an engine mount that had snapped and was held together by jubilee clips. The best was an Alfa 75 with a RIVETED ON sill
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Iicr, riveted on panels are fine, if done right, mot fine and still strong.
Aircraft are riveted together after all.
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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I've just noticed some really bad grammar in my post My use of "used" looks totally wrong in some of that, but I'm not sure what would be correct?? Esp the bit "bought when I used to live in Wales, used as my daily..." That is wrong? Isn't it?? Would somone kindly tell me what the correct grammar would be?? tY grammatically acceptable, but clumsy. 'bought when i lived in Wales, used daily....' would sound better. Got an English teacher sat next to me atm.
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DutyFreeSaviour
Europe
Back For More heartbreak and disappointment.....
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oooh - let's think....... MGB GT (back in '89) - car had 'stood' and old rope seal disintegrated - clutch covered in oil.... I left it with a garage as I was away 2days later. They burned the oil off and re-fitted the plate - but they'd let it burn too long and the thing fell to bits in about 15miles. Trump2500 (over last 4yrs) - LOADS of riveted plates, filler sills and fibreglass holding in 'repair sections' - adn I got that with 12mths ticket from a garage....... I don't even want to go into the sheer number of electrical connector blocks in the stereo wiring on the Pajero...... sheer lunacy Favourite - Porsche 911 (bought as uncompleted project) with legendary cereal packet and filler floorpans....... sills had box section inserted and welded along hte inner side - while the outer were - shall we say - sculpted! That car was a fast lesson in bodge spotting - but I still suck at it and keep buying sheds edit - forgot - Dolly Sprint - entire front bulkhead to scuttle panel was gone - cardboard, envelopes and filler - again a garage that had 'restored' it twonks
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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Tim
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Jul 29, 2011 10:26:41 GMT
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Nothing massive so far for me: Car clearcoated (havnt been brave enough to work out why yet!) with trim in place - remove trim and its obvious Mirrors and trim glued on with bathroom sealant Primer bulb cut out of the fuel system on a 106 diesel and replaced with what looked like coolant pipe - no idea how they got the thing primed and running, but i only found out 'after' we had removed the fuel filter The fuel pump died trying to get it running after that - wouldn't draw from tank :-( Fuel tank held together with instant metal - but still leaking. Although i cant really call that a bodge as i found out when i went to fix it with chemical metal :-)
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THE_Liam
Yorkshire and The Humber
If at first you don't succeed... HAMMERS.
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Jul 29, 2011 13:10:44 GMT
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Iicr, riveted on panels are fine, if done right, mot fine and still strong. Aircraft are riveted together after all. Ha, not this one! Basically, the idiot who'd done it had hammered a piece of sheet over the remains of the original sill, riveted it to the only solid bits he could find and then skimmed it with filler. I knew it was filler when I bought the car (it was VERY cheap) and I only found out the horror beneath when I went to fix it properly. I stuck a screwdriver under the panel once I smashed off enough filler to see it, pulled it and the whole sill assembly came off in about 40 pieces, and the rot had spread right into the floor. It was about 10000x worse than I thought it was, you know those moments where you just stare at it for 5 minutes, mutter something under your breath and throw a heavy tool at the wall? Yeah. Just thought of another as well, PSA cars have torsion bar rear suspension, and to lower it you have to take off the trailing arms, pull out the torsion bars and rotate them so it will sit lower, and quite often the bars are seized in place. The same 306 that had the jubilee clip engine mount, the genius had cut the arms in half and welded them back together at an angle
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Tim
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Jul 29, 2011 13:17:11 GMT
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Just thought of another as well, PSA cars have torsion bar rear suspension, and to lower it you have to take off the trailing arms, pull out the torsion bars and rotate them so it will sit lower, and quite often the bars are seized in place. The same 306 that had the jubilee clip engine mount, the genius had cut the arms in half and welded them back together at an angle
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THE_Liam
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Jul 29, 2011 13:33:02 GMT
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Just thought of another as well, PSA cars have torsion bar rear suspension, and to lower it you have to take off the trailing arms, pull out the torsion bars and rotate them so it will sit lower, and quite often the bars are seized in place. The same 306 that had the jubilee clip engine mount, the genius had cut the arms in half and welded them back together at an angle Needless to say the beam went straight in the scrap pile, luckily I had a pre-lowered and rebuilt GTI-6 disc beam in the shed
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Jul 29, 2011 13:50:48 GMT
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Iicr, riveted on panels are fine, if done right, mot fine and still strong. Aircraft are riveted together after all. Nope - MOT fail unless is the spring platform on a Mercedes. To quote my old boss to an old gent who made the same aviation related comment. " if you can make it fly Ill put an MOT on it!" (Old man not very happy!!!!) I pulled most of the repair patches off my tr7 with my bare hands - the worst were holding the suspension tops together.
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Jul 29, 2011 14:39:16 GMT
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Kind of off-topic, but modern aircraft are actually glued together with high-tech adhesives. The rivets are only there to hold the panels together until the glue dries, after that they're not intended to be structural. Dead serious!
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Jul 29, 2011 15:11:17 GMT
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Kind of off-topic, but modern aircraft are actually glued together with high-tech adhesives. The rivets are only there to hold the panels together until the glue dries, after that they're not intended to be structural. Dead serious! FALSE !! Ask me how i know
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bl1300
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Jul 29, 2011 16:58:36 GMT
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I thought this was an old wives tale untill I saw pictures on the dolly club forum.
Yep a wooden piston!
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Current fleet.
1967 DAF 44 1974 VW Beetle 1303s 1975 Triumph Spitfire MkIV 1988 VW LT45 Beavertail 1998 Volvo V70 2.5 1959 Fordson Dexta
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Jul 29, 2011 18:53:01 GMT
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Take a small sheet of aluminium, fold it in half, beat flat, repeat until about 15 mm thick. Do this 4 times then insert using a hammer as replacement pads in a Landrover 90. Muppet! The rivetted aluminium sheet rear cross member with a "God only knows how or what it's attached to" tow hook gave away the owners IQ.
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Vauxhall Victor SL2000 Estate.
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Jul 29, 2011 19:22:49 GMT
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guy i worked with had a pug 106, had been "extensively" lowered. He mentioned a loud knock at front, so we put a new wheel bearing in it as the old one was shot 2 days later same issue. Got it up on the ramp and gave it a once over. Guy who had it before had chopped down 60mm lowering springs so the driveshafts had bottomed out, smashing one wheel bearing to bits, both shafts were bent and the diff was fudged. Back end was on the bumpstops with it jacked up in the air.
So had another gearbox, new driveshafts, new 40mm lowering kit and dampers, 2 new wheel bearings, new bearings and top bushes for springs, 2 new dampers, 2 track rods, rear end raised back up. All on a car that had an MOT 2 months before with the same ride height, hmmmm............
Was guys first car and he couldn't believe the difference that little lot of work had made. He though the suspension was so stiff because of the lowering not because there was no travel left!!!!
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1977 datsun 810 180b estate
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Jul 29, 2011 20:05:26 GMT
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Kind of off-topic, but modern aircraft are actually glued together with high-tech adhesives. The rivets are only there to hold the panels together until the glue dries, after that they're not intended to be structural. Dead serious! The Adhasives I think your on about would be rubber or jointing compounds to stop fretting, on an aircraft you shouldn't ever have metal on metal contact as it causes wear, the rubber or JC stop the wear but without the rivets you can pull the part off by hand. Some parts and aircraft are held together by glues, such as phantom wings are glued on and parts of the new airbus A380 wings but these parts are normally composite, carbon, Kevlar and the such. But I did think riveted panels on a car were ok, landrovers are riveted after all. (not the chassis tho, so could be exempt)
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Jul 29, 2011 20:10:05 GMT
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Kind of off-topic, but modern aircraft are actually glued together with high-tech adhesives. The rivets are only there to hold the panels together until the glue dries, after that they're not intended to be structural. Dead serious! FALSE !! Ask me how I know Ditto lol. Bae Brough, airbus Chester and RSAF in kingdom Saudi. You??
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Jul 29, 2011 20:17:24 GMT
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.....if my left hand remembered where I put tool A when my body and right hand went looking for tool B. Prompted by much swearing, then my wife comes out to the garage and asks "does it look like this?", and she's holding tool A. I dunno how she does it. Not so much a bodge I discovered, but I bought an unfinished kitcar from a guy who claimed to be an engineer for a local aircraft manufacturer. The brake lines were cable-tied to the chassis. He also admitted to the surprise he felt when he took the top nut off a MacPherson strut and the spanner flew across the garage : he didn't know you're supposed to use spring compressors. He's lucky his head is still on his shoulders.
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Jul 29, 2011 20:23:31 GMT
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FALSE !! Ask me how I know Ditto lol. Bae Brough, airbus Chester and RSAF in kingdom Saudi. You?? Bae/Spirit aerosystems prestwick, bombardier bellfast, agusta westlands yeovil, GKN bristol, Maintenance at prestiwck airport etc Contractor so been a few places. They did a trial of an aircraft that wa completely stripped out ( think it was a 320, that had no fasteners on the skins just on the main frames, the cabin remained pressurised to soemthing like 15,000ft, the sealants they use is really good stuff, but some of it is just beyond dangerous !!!
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Last Edit: Jul 29, 2011 20:24:42 GMT by ruishy1
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camper damper
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Another car bites the dust
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Jul 29, 2011 20:33:54 GMT
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