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May 30, 2011 12:28:49 GMT
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One of the cars I need to own (and there is admittedly quite a list) is a 1970 Dodge Polara. A 1970 Monaco would do just as well. It needs to be a 2 door hardtop, and it would ideally have a factory 440, buckets and console with "staple shifter".      I suspect if such a car did turn up it would command a higher price than I could pay so any old 2 door 1970 would be the ticket and I'll rebuild it to the spec I want and use repop or used B body parts for the interior... Close enough I reckon. I could even 440 into a 383 or a small block car. I am an occasional visitor on the C Body Dry Dock forum, sufficient to know that "Fuselage" body Dodges are rare now, especially in the 2 door. I haven't ever seen a car of my "dream" spec. I've never seen a 2dr one at all in the UK and hardly ever on the Dry Dock, and then usually only as a wreck.  So anyway.... I have stumbled across a California dry state '71 Dodge Polara 2 dr hard top in tatty but solid condition with someone who is more than happy to it to be delivered to my door. I am currently starting a business and consequently poor as a church mouse. Purchase of the Polara would require sale of my Cadillac and maybe the Trans Am as well. It would be a silly thing to do by most normal people's measure. But its calling to me. The thing is... Its a 1971 not a 1970. Which is a small detail but... The coolest things about the '70 are the grill, front bumper/surround and the tail lights and rear bumper. Which are the basic differences between the '70 and '71 Now I could either.... Get the '71 and live with the fact its not a '70. Close enough, yeah Get the '71 and find a set of '70 bumpers, lights, grilles, etc. and clone up the styling I like (assuming these parts just swap over!) Leave the '71 and wait until I have better finances (assuming I ever do) and go on the hunt for a '70 then... '71 looks like...   although the '71 front is growing on me...  |
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Last Edit: May 30, 2011 12:30:27 GMT by akku
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May 30, 2011 12:39:23 GMT
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Sell the plymouth and the buick, Get the polara so you have the car you want and only one project.
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May 30, 2011 12:40:49 GMT
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that wasn't on the option list...  |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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May 30, 2011 12:45:44 GMT
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Very cool looking machines.
What about turning the 71 into a 70? So what if it's a "wrong un" it's your dream car!
A 68 charger rep isn't as cool as an original 68, but I bet the owner loves it just the same. And how many people are going to know the model differences between a 70 and a 71 polara??
You don't see enough fuselage cars in the uk.
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rysz
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May 30, 2011 12:46:26 GMT
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It all depends on whether the 71 is a runner and not needing a lot (read any) work for an mot. The Caddy and the Trans are both on the road and running and legal, is another project what you need? If it will go straight through an MOT, then do it - I am sure that this one is big enough to live in...  Alternatively you could wait a year after your business has a turnover of £Eleventy-squillion and buy what ever you want! However, a lost opportunity has gone forever... Meh, I am absolutely no use whatsoever - looks cool though! (I prefer the '71 tbh). Rysz. |
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May 30, 2011 12:53:46 GMT
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I can't offer any advice on this one, but I'm curious as to what a 'fuselage car' is, never heard the term before.
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May 30, 2011 12:57:03 GMT
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'71 is bound to be a shed. Probably very similar in condition to my Fury upon arrival. Knowing the sellers (by repute as much as anything) they will possibly still have it in a years time LOL. Some of their stock stands for a long long time.
To turn a '71 into a '70 I'd have to be happy it was just the grilles and bumpers and not the fenders, decklid, hood, etc etc as well!
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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May 30, 2011 12:59:57 GMT
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I can't offer any advice on this one, but I'm curious as to what a 'fuselage car' is, never heard the term before. Fuselage refers to the C body line 1969-1973. It was a throwaway line in some advertising from 1969 when Ma Mopar said that the C body line all now used a new monocoque design which was lighter, stiffer and more aerodynamic than before and that this had been inspired by jet aircraft fuselages. Interestingly this is a line they nicked off AMC who said the same thing about 2 or 3 years earlier... The Fuselage cars have quite bowed side profiles and loads of funky compound curves and often the glass areas flow into the metal parts in rather slick ways. |
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stefan
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May 30, 2011 13:00:24 GMT
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I would be happy with almost any polara but having 2 young kids a 4 door will probably be better for me, or a station wagon!
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May 30, 2011 13:01:16 GMT
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And assuming the next question is "what is a C body" thats the Mopar full size lineup.
For 1969-1973 thats Plymouth Fury, Dodge Polara, Dodge Monaco, Chrysler Newport, Chrysler, 300, Chrysler New Yorker.
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May 30, 2011 13:02:23 GMT
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Stefan, IME a large 2 door is quite good with kids. You are in the dry when you are in the car strapping them in when its raining.
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Last Edit: May 30, 2011 13:02:40 GMT by akku
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stefan
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May 30, 2011 13:38:11 GMT
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Thats true mate but then again I do not mind a 4 door, I have alot of want for your buick.
I have owned a 32b roadster with a 440 in it but never a full size yank but always wanted to
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qwerty
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May 30, 2011 13:45:15 GMT
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Just leave it at the Minute AK. No point selling to road worthy cars to get another project, especially in financially uncertain times!
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skinnylew
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May 30, 2011 13:53:43 GMT
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I would say leave it.
In some respects your dream car should always be your dream car, because you might just find yourself disappointed when you actually get it and it's no where near as good as you thought it would be.
This would be even more the case if you got the 71 i suspect. At least with a 70 you know you are getting what you dreamed of not making it into what you dreamed of.
One of my dream cars is an F40 but if I'm ever in a position to be able to get one, I will have probably fulfilled a number of other life goals along the way making it less of a blow if it doesn't live up to the hype (although having read this months Evo it will be fine ;D ).
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May 30, 2011 14:18:42 GMT
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folks is talking sense and all. Damn you. Ha. I have to enquire about price and some more pics at least.
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May 30, 2011 14:56:15 GMT
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I'd leave it too, if it was the right model at the wrong time then maybe, but the wrong model at the wrong time is a big no.
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May 30, 2011 15:31:30 GMT
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I too say leave it. Whatever you may think now, the fact it's a 71 and not a 70 WILL bother you at some point. Trust me.
If you never find a 70, so be it. A dream unfilfilled is better than a dream fulfilled in a sort of skewiff, half-ars*d fashion.
If you have a dream, settle for nothing less. Otherwise it's not a dream, it's just another 'want'.
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Last Edit: May 30, 2011 15:32:14 GMT by Samage
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May 30, 2011 15:40:28 GMT
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I'd leave it too, if it was the right model at the wrong time then maybe, but the wrong model at the wrong time is a big no. This |
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May 30, 2011 15:48:30 GMT
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May 30, 2011 15:54:02 GMT
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I'd say leave it (if it were me), that cars not what you actually want and is probably gonna be a huge headache being so rare and needing work which you don't seem to have the time or money to do..
Personally I'd sell everything that's not exactly what you want and buy one mint version of exactly what want that needs only minor fettling and normal maintenance...
I can only speak for myself but on finding myself in a position where i just didn't have the time to devote to many old cars, by selling my numerous and variously ageing, crippled, manky, broken, dismantled, worn out fleet and buying one nice thing that I could enjoy without a massive time commitment and fulfilled the 'dream car' role, was one of the best decisions I've ever made with cars and hugely cathartic, and if i get bored of it or fancy another 'dream car' the capital is all in there and you just sell it and buy another..
So personally I'd sell all the restos keep a cool daily and buy one mint 2 door 440 '70 with buckets in as near to puuurfect condition I could find, and just enjoy owning and driving it safe in the knowledge that it's value is supported by it being a 'real' version of whatever it is not a old bodge up or lashed together rep with a million and one niggly problems, .. But that's just my opinion..
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