Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 19:04:40 GMT
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As many of you know, I picked up a MK5 Cortina 2.3 off the Bay and I'm more than happy with it. However, it has serious traction/grip issues which seem to centre on the fact that its running 175 70/ 13 rubber on old RS2000 alloys. I know its not exactly a dragster but its a little bit scary on wet roads. Anyway, I was scratching my head thinking about what my options are, then it dawned on me than my recently written off E30 325 is sat unused wearing BBS alloys and nearly new 195 rubber. Firstly, would these wheels fit (stud pattern, offset etc)? the cars up the road and I don't wanna fanny about if someone on here can tell me yes or no. Secondly, would the Cortina look absolutely pants wearing BBS cross spokes? Obviously Id take the BMW badge centre caps off!
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Jun 27, 2006 19:08:13 GMT
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BMW E30: 4x100mm Cortina: 4x108mm
Summary: They not fit.
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Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 19:30:36 GMT
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Cheers matey. Saved me wasting half an hour of my life trying it out.
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Last Edit: Jun 27, 2006 19:31:07 GMT by Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 19:31:03 GMT
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Mate those RS 4 spokes look absolutely spanking on your 'tina! What make are the tyres? Correct pressure in the etc? Only a lot of high power RS2000's and the like still run those wheels without too many problems..... If it was me i'd invest in some very good quality tyres for the rims you have instead, Yoko's or Pirelli's, and see if that cures it
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Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 19:37:35 GMT
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Mate those RS 4 spokes look absolutely spanking on your 'tina! What make are the tyres? Correct pressure in the etc? Only a lot of high power RS2000's and the like still run those wheels without too many problems..... If it was me i'd invest in some very good quality tyres for the rims you have instead, Yoko's or Pirelli's, and see if that cures it I do love the looks but I'm always on edge in the wet, hoping nothing unexpected occurs up ahead. I've set all the pressures (I guessed at 32psi front, 30psi rear). The tyres are a bit of a mix 'n' match. Continental, Barum and some others. Tread looks fine on them all but...... Maybe its cos I'm comparing it with an 05 Clio with ABS and the same width tyres?! What width rubber would those wheels take? 185's? I did think that about the RS2000's using those wheels. I think it might be cos the V6 lump and Cortina shell weigh a fair bit more than an essy.
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Last Edit: Jun 27, 2006 19:41:09 GMT by Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 19:45:36 GMT
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my old mk2 16 sport essy had 185/ 60s on i think. its been 10 years so i cant remember.
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Seth
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Jun 27, 2006 19:45:48 GMT
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I reckon those pressures might be a bit on the high side which might well make the steering feel a bit light. Try taking them down to 28 or so. A matching set of new tyres would certainly do wonders too.
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Jun 27, 2006 19:50:29 GMT
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Mate those RS 4 spokes look absolutely spanking on your 'tina! What make are the tyres? Correct pressure in the etc? Only a lot of high power RS2000's and the like still run those wheels without too many problems..... If it was me i'd invest in some very good quality tyres for the rims you have instead, Yoko's or Pirelli's, and see if that cures it I do love the looks but I'm always on edge in the wet, hoping nothing unexpected occurs up ahead. I've set all the pressures (I guessed at 32psi front, 30psi rear). The tyres are a bit of a mix 'n' match. Continental, Barum and some others. Tread looks fine on them all but...... Maybe its cos I'm comparing it with an 05 Clio with ABS and the same width tyres?! What width rubber would those wheels take? 185's? I did think that about the RS2000's using those wheels. I think it might be cos the V6 lump and Cortina shell weigh a fair bit more than an essy. There's your answer, 175 and mix matched tyres = no grip. These wheels will take 185's easy as i had them on my Capri. Get some half decent tyres and she should handle half decent.
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Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 20:04:56 GMT
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So you don't rate 10 year old remoulds then?
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Last Edit: Jun 27, 2006 20:05:15 GMT by Bracey
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Jun 27, 2006 20:21:22 GMT
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toyo do a good grippy 185x60x13 but you will need to whack it with a stick to make it look right with 60's on
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Jun 27, 2006 20:47:52 GMT
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Keep your eyes peeled on the bay - I have seriously considered having the hubs remachined to Ford pcd so that I can take advantage of the seriously cheap prices for Ford alloys! I saw a really cool set of Cobra supaslots with new Pirelli tyres sell for sub £100 recently . And a set of slots would look supa-fly... Tinas are a little tail happy with a heavy right foot, but in a good way. But a set of decent tyres makes a huge difference. It could be that your tyres have gone hard with age - great for drifting but poxy for grip. All this Tina talk makes me want another Mk3....dammit!!!!
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Jun 27, 2006 23:10:22 GMT
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a friend of mine has 205's on 5 1/2 inch rs wheels, fitted to his escort. they seem to work well!!
Guy
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Jun 27, 2006 23:47:28 GMT
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185/70's or 205/60's are what you want, they'll fill the arches out nicely. It probably wouldnt be a bad idea to stick a set of poly bushes on the back too. Its amazing how much the rear axle moves about on worn bushes and the standard rubber ones last about as long as custard doughnuts in my fridge.
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Cortina's a handful... hmmm... Well personally I think they handle great, even with curse word tyres and ropey void bushes - maybe it's that V6 boat anchor under the bonnet thats causing the problems!!! All the weight in the wrong place and lots of torque to break the traction? Having spanked the nuts off a couple of mk4/5 cortinas I love the way they handle - just make sure the side windows are clean so you can see where you are going?
2.3's are a bit pants so I suppose the temptation with a 2.3 shell is that a 2.9 or even a 24v lump would sit just right on that crossmember...?
Incidently, how much do you chaps think I would I have to spend to pick up a rot-free mk5 on the road these days and whats the insurance like on them these days if you've tweeked them a bit?
I picked up a 1300 mk5 last year for £100 with couple of months tax and a dodgy MOT - smoked it around a little bit, but decided it was dangerously rotten and banger raced it - it fell to bits with alarming ease but went very well - probably not much weight left in it after the sills and pillars had rotted out!
Peugeot steels are good on Cortinas for racing as they are very strong - they go on no problems, look to be the same offset and everything (or bloody close to the same). It has occured to me recently that a mk5 would look quite cool lowered slightly on the standard 205 1.9 GTi alloys!?
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2006 0:38:23 GMT by wilko
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ive seen a tina with 1.9gti alloys on and it looked fine. 406 15" steels ftw tho ;D
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Minime, try and get hold of some good cheap rubber, yoko 539's are supposed to be OK, and there are lots of other good cheap brands too, Toyo, etc. 185's are plenty big enough, the 2.0s capri came with 185's grand prix S's as standard, so they should be enough for a std Cortina.
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Jun 28, 2006 13:11:28 GMT
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My 2.0ltr was pretty good at breaking traction on the back end in the wet with a bit of right pedal abuse. It'll be even worse soon when the engine swap is finished!
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Bracey
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Jun 28, 2006 13:35:09 GMT
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2.3's are a bit pants so I suppose the temptation with a 2.3 shell is that a 2.9 or even a 24v lump would sit just right on that crossmember... *Gets all defensive about his new car* Why do you say that? I think the 2.3 Cologne is a fine power plant. I'm amazed at how refined the car is. Its actually quieter (road & engine noise) than my '91 325! But it growls when it wants to thanks to the K&N. Acceleration in 1st and 2nd is excellent in my opinion and once its up to speed it seems to get up and go waaaaaaaay better than my 320. We timed my old 325 at 6.8 seconds to 60mph but this Tina has such short gear ratios (maybe down to the smaller wheels and tyres too) that it feels a hell of a lot quicker to 40mph. Its certainly more fun surprising people from the lights in "an old banger". Incidentally, 50-70 in top (4th) is 7.2 seconds. No need to down change in this! Thats quite respectable, isnt it? To be honest, its more the braking ability that scares me. I'm used to the handling now, but the brakes definately need some fettling and/or extra rubber to contact the ground! (edit: I'm bored. Think I'm gonna do an in car video of it)
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2006 13:44:13 GMT by Bracey
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Jun 28, 2006 13:54:33 GMT
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I'd get some new decent wider tyres, Gotta mention though I still have 7inch wide cossie wheels available i'm seriously considering whacking on our Cortina if they don't get sold.
As for the 2.3, stick with it for now at least, if you are enjoying the car thats all that counts.
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Jun 28, 2006 17:22:36 GMT
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Put 205/60 13's on your RS 4 spokes, they'll be fine. If you get fed up with the 2.3, easiest swap will be a 2.8 (either carb or go to injection). Nice motor.
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