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Dec 10, 2010 13:18:52 GMT
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Right, a combination of bad weather/lunacy/abandoned car thread, has made me realise that my life is useless without an Alvis Stalwart in it. Ive seen this - and i want it lots. Ive been digging around and found a company that has about 7 for sale, from £1000 up to 4k. My budget is going to be aroung £2000 so i expect i'll need to do some work. My brother is in the Engineers and knows a few people who used to drive/service these so that hopefully wont be too much trouble. So...who can tell me more about them? Driving, maintaining, stories, photos...even any you know of for sale. Educate me on Stollies! ;D
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Dec 10, 2010 13:21:15 GMT
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Oh my god, you're serious! You loon. (In a good way.) ;D
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Dec 10, 2010 13:22:54 GMT
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I'm afraid I can't educate you on them but I can say you're absolutely loony.
Well done, very envious!
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Dec 10, 2010 13:27:34 GMT
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I read up on these after seeing them in the thread too. legend. A few sources say that if you drive them on the road the drive system doesnt last long which was enough to put me off:( here www.4wdonline.com/Mil/Alvis/Stalwart.html
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Last Edit: Dec 10, 2010 13:31:35 GMT by brettsri
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Dec 10, 2010 13:33:40 GMT
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Haha, I'm deadly serious...i think loony must be a good thing! Brett, i read the same thing on Wiki, ive heard different things about it. Apparently the transmission 'winds up' as they are permanent 6 wheel drive. Some people have said this isnt the case...i guess we'll find out! Besides...on every journey there's bound to be a field or something to let the transmission settle down!
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Dec 10, 2010 13:38:09 GMT
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Not all are amphibious. There is a kit that needed adding to "standard" Stalwart to convert it. These are rare and can be expensive so don't expect such to be included in any you find for sale. Also there is some query about road registering as they have hydraulic steering with no direct / hard link to steering wheel so cann't normally be classed as private or HGV. Most are, afaik, therefore registered as agricultrual and thus limitations on road usage.
Paul H
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Dec 10, 2010 13:46:54 GMT
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Hmmm..thats something to think about, might limit its use a bit...hopefully not too much! Any idea where i can find definate answers to the registering question?
I'm not too fussed about it being swimmable. The swim boards and dowty jets have already been removed from most Stalwarts...and aside from deep puddles/floods and snow drifts/deep mud it'll not doing much where it'll need to be waterproof!
Ive heard also that they are MOT and tax exempt...any idea if there is any truth to this? There must be some road-worthyness test it has to have??
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Alvis Stalwartpauldaf44
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Dec 10, 2010 13:54:11 GMT
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I love these the noise they make is just mental.
I would be tied between that and a DAF YA328 with trada independent drive system.
Stalwart
YA
WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT.
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Dec 10, 2010 13:56:54 GMT
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Tank cap. 455 litres (91 UK gallons) Max. range 824 kms (515 miles) Engine Rolls Royce straight eight B81 water cooled petrol That's a nice 5 MPG Istill want one, though
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m0rris
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Dec 10, 2010 14:01:59 GMT
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Get yourself on this forum; hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/What these guys do not know about vehicles in the British army from about 1910-2010 isn't worth knowing. They'll be able to point you in the direction of all the necessary parts etc etc! m0rris
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Dec 10, 2010 14:07:55 GMT
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A replacement tyre will set you back £1 million.*
* This is a guess. Still, I think you should buy one anyway - you would be my new hero!
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Last Edit: Dec 10, 2010 14:08:24 GMT by jontanner
Porsche 924 - gone Citroen Saxo VTR - not very retro but I loved it - now gone... MK4 Golf GTi 1.8T - gone but hardly remembered... Mini Cooper S R53 - gone BMW 125d Coupe - gone (mostly sideways)
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Dec 10, 2010 14:29:52 GMT
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They drive much like the original Lotus Elan, lightweight, nimble on it's skinny tyres, communicative steering..........
Blimey! Cool, but crazy idea. What are you planning to do with it?
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Dec 10, 2010 14:33:16 GMT
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Me and a mate looked into buying one of these back in the early 90's, the reason they are cheap is the horrendous running costs and large amount of expensive maintenance they need, which doubles if you take them swimming, you'll need an HGV lisence, plus somehwerre large to store it and work on it, a forklift/tractor/crane to lift and move the bits you need to get at for running repairs and oiling/greasing bits. They wander on the road, and drive in a constant swerving motion, not heard of anyone damaging the trans on the road, but they do wear things out quick anyway, incliding drivers, 3 hours behind the wheel is a killer apparently, and you don't get far in that time as thyey are pretty slow.
I still want one, but definately never gonna actually own one.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Dec 10, 2010 14:44:05 GMT
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have you though about land rover 101's?
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Dec 10, 2010 14:46:49 GMT
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I plan to drive it whenever the mood takes me! Ive just spent the last couple of hours reading up about them..and i can say with certainty its possible. A HGV licence isnt required, theres a lad on the hmvf forum whos 21 and driving one, just for the grin. Due to when how old it is, and the taxation class, you can drive it (as long as its unladen and not towing) on a normal licence. Running costs cant be much worse than a top end car. You get between 4 and 10 miles to the gallon in a stollie, which is the same as my old V12 Jag, and if you keep on top of maintenace you shouldnt have any major mechanical problems. One guy has managed 12000 miles with no problems whatsoever. Wandering on the road is the nature of the beast, due to large tyres and hydraulic steering. You can always break up the monotony by taking a shortcut through a field! They cruise at around 40-50mph so are no slower than some vintage cars. Ive got a place to store one, and a place to work on one...I'm really struggling with reasons not to do it!
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Neil
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Dec 10, 2010 14:59:47 GMT
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Dec 10, 2010 15:01:52 GMT
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I'm mad...but not THAT mad!
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Dec 10, 2010 15:15:13 GMT
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That video is crazy!
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jonw
Part of things
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Dec 10, 2010 15:23:33 GMT
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From what I've heard, stollies are a b1tch to work on! All the gear is within the water proof hull, so is very crammed in.
Oh and the other great feature in a vehicle which carried fuel drums is the glowing red exhaust...
They are VERY cool though.
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Suzuki SV650R The good Triumph T20 The Bad BMW G650GS The Ugly Matchless G12CSR The Smokey Toyota Hybrid One pint or Two?
Ingredients of this post Spam Drunken Rambling of author Bad spelling Drunken ramblings of inner voices Occasional pointless comments Vile beef trimming they won't even use in stock cubes
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Dec 10, 2010 15:24:47 GMT
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you say they don't cost more to run than a top end car, thats WAY optomistic, your not taking into account the cost of grease for all the grease points or the amount of oil you need for an oil change for instance, also cant see the point of having one and not being able to put anything on it, i'd rather have the HGV license and be able to put stuff on the back. We decided to start with something a bit easier to own first and had a ferret armoured car for a while, even that was to much hard work.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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