ThePollitt
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Firstly, KFW, not a word. Secondly, would people be kind enough to fill this thread with images and info about the W126 300SE? I want to know their faults, their successes and their details. I want to know all about their straight six engines, I want to know of their common issues and I want to know all that it good about them. That is all. Have some images as payment... Chris
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Tell me about: W126 300SEs..
erm they are very big .
sorry know nothing about them carry on ;D
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levismerc
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Ok, here's what I know but it's not definitive by any means... They're big and comfy and a 3litre with a big body like a 126 will not be the most economical thing in the world but will easily keep up with modern traffic. Shouldn't by too thirsty on a decent run bu probably high teens if you're sitting in crawling traffic. I think it's a four speed auto normally but they always set off in second unless you boot it from stationary so you might only hear a couple of upshifts on a test drive. Later ones might have a mode selectable box but that might only apply to larger engines(?). I think it's bosch Kjet injection so easy to get bits for. They can rot a bit but probably hold up better than a lot of stuff from that era especially if you get a later one. Really well screwed together and tough as olf boots. rot spots to look out for are around the base of the rear screen - try to check by climbing into the boot and having a look upwards. Chrome trim on bumpers can corrode and is hard to get hold of/expensive. Nearly all bits are available from merc dealers and ECP / GSF etc. There are loads of specialist MB breakers and parts dealers around too. Insurance should be pretty reasonable too if you can get it on a classic policy. Anyway, here's a buyers guide from a german site... www.s-klasse-club.de/gb/index.html - click on 'the W126' in the horizontal menu and then 'buying advice' on the left hand column. cheers Tim
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Last Edit: Nov 5, 2010 14:31:32 GMT by levismerc
'83 Merc 280CE
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they rock ,,, nuff said !!!
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300ce lowrider c220 track car c280 youngtimer S320 ...vip no 4 S430 .. 2 x slk 230 500se , E36 amg E 430 E55 amg Ml 320 C43 amg
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The 300 SE is the most common W126 - although the LWB 300SEL is rarer than the V8 SELs. 300SE available from D reg to J reg-(some last K plates though)
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emuosf
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My dad bought this 280SE back in April (yes, I know Chris asked about 300s, but whats 200cc between friends? ) The 280 has a straight 6 twin cam, I beleive they make a similar amount of power and torque to the 3.0L. Whilst it isnt going to set any speed records its still pretty pokey for such a big car. I'm not sure what sort of fuel consumption it gives as its only really used around town. I can ask him over the weekend and find out if you like? They don't seem to have experienced the big prices of other Mercedes of similar vintage either. Dads is A-reg ('83?) and spotless except for a rust blister on the offside rear arch. When he bought it in April it had 78k on the clock, six months MOT, a full tank of fuel ( so full you could get wet fingers at the filler cap), Up to date history from Mercedes specialists, both independent and dealer. Yet cost less than £500.
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Last Edit: Nov 5, 2010 21:00:20 GMT by emuosf
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Neil
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was this yours? ...or was it someone elses on here?
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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if you make it look like the first one chris, then I promise not to take the pi$$
- hey, it's not like I can be overly critical on the subject of buying old toot that turns out to be fubar, can I ??
good luck!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Foxy
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Making pink manly in the north!
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They're awesome.............simple as! Beirut Taxi FTW!
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I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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Chris This photo is epic! That is all I have to say. ;D
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rr69h
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These are rather excellent machines. Bought one from the first owner in 2008 with 255.000 Kms on the clock, we're currently at 306.000 Km. The engine is reasonably economical around town (12 liters per 100 Kms) and surprisingly so on the long run (10ish litres per 100 Km). It's no racecar, but it goes pretty well. Mine is a regular sight on the inside lanes of German Autobahns and goes on for hours without breaking a sweat at 180 Km/h or so. The head gasket could be an issue if it has been abused, both ignition and injection systems (Bosch's KE-jetronic) are very relieable. The engine is pretty smooth and surprisingly quiet on the motorway. These are among the last Mercs you can work on with spanners, but keep in mind that these are very complex cars and parts can be expensive. This is mine by the way: So in a nutshell: if you've got a good'un it will probably outlive anything else from that era. Maintenance is the key.
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"Racing drivers never carry cash"
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I think they were the last handbuilt Mercedes.
They like to rust on the leading edge of the front arches and the chrome bumper blades can rust away to nothingness too (expect a bill for over £1000 for new blades and fittings).
The 300SE isnt fast and in real world terms not particularly economical but if buying this type of car that shouldnt even figure into the decision.
Id say buy the best one you can afford and keep on top of its maintenance
Ignore anything under £1000 because before long they will need a lot of money spending on them (Unless you plan to use and abuse then throw it away!)
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I don't think something as mass produced as a W126 would have been handbuilt?
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ThePollitt
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was this yours? ...or was it someone elses on here? Yeah, but it was a 500SEL. £100 that cost me. Thanks for all the info guys. There is a point to all of this, but I'm playing my cards close to my chest just in case. Chris
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I don't think something as mass produced as a W126 would have been handbuilt? According to the Mercedes Classic literature they were and the 560SEC (had one of those too) was THE last handbuilt Merc
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ThePollitt
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So, here it is... I have been offered this: Now It's not a lot of money, but not enough to leave me out of pocket should it fail its MOT in a spectacular fashion. As such, I'm going to buy it. If it passes I can insure it for £180 fully comp, making it (despite its economy) more financially viable than the Mondeo (which also needs an MOT). Here is a run down of some recent bills... It's been laid up for around 10 months, but regularly started and moved about. It's solid, very solid in fact. There is a slight ding on the drivers side rear arch but that's it. I'm getting it cheap because the guy who owns it is moving unit and it needs to go. The idle is off, he told me that. I suspect the idle control valve to be honest. Here is a little Q&A I had with the current owner... So, whaddya think? Chris
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Sounds like it's been looked after, which is always a good thing.
IMO, the very first thing to do - if you buy it - would be to change all the fluids: Oil (and filter), coolant and most importantly brake fluid. Cars don't like standing, and the oil and brake fluid pick up moisture, and start corrosion of metal bits in contact with those fluids.
I'd expect to have to change the battery, the discs and brake hydraulic things like wheel cylinders and brake hoses - they are sometimes original on a car of this age, and 10 months standing might just push them over the edge. However, given the service history I wouldn't really expect any major bills to leap at you out of the blue.
The only thing leaps out at me it that the previous dizzy cap and rotor arm only lasted 2 years - is there wear/play in the dizzy, were they cheap parts, or did they meet with an accident?
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Nov 12, 2010 19:43:48 GMT
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I don't think something as mass produced as a W126 would have been handbuilt? According to the Mercedes Classic literature they were and the 560SEC (had one of those too) was THE last handbuilt Merc Info on this question seems to be v secrative! Here poster Cascade says it is not handbuilt www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1340855-w126-vs-w140.html
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Nov 12, 2010 20:00:57 GMT
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if you don't buy it , I 'll find it and I will , seriously m103 is an ace engine ( got one in me lowrider) pop the dizzy cap off clean the cap electrodes , squirt some wd and it'll go on for ever , don't let anyone tell you they're underpowered !! tbh I've 2 420s and there ain't much difference in power .... and oh Chris it won't fail the mot ,just check the lights before you go and jobs a good un !!!
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300ce lowrider c220 track car c280 youngtimer S320 ...vip no 4 S430 .. 2 x slk 230 500se , E36 amg E 430 E55 amg Ml 320 C43 amg
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