fogey
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Oct 12, 2010 22:03:20 GMT
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Primarily for motor sport use but are they ok/permissable for road car suspension and steering? Ta  |
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Oct 12, 2010 22:32:03 GMT
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Not sure of the legality but I can't see why they'd fail an Mot providing there's no play in them.
What's the car and how often will it be used on the road? Rose joints are very harsh on the road and transmit an awful lot of noise/vibration.
Personally if it was a weekend car that was going to be sprinted/hill climbed occasionally I'd fit polybushes every time.
Al
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Oct 12, 2010 23:14:39 GMT
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Don't know about the legalitys of them, but they don't like the wet and dirt, it wears them out quite quickly, if you do use em, cover them in loads of grease and put some heat shrink around em.
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stealthstylz
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Oct 12, 2010 23:54:34 GMT
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As above. You can buy protective boots for them. They're not brilliant though still get curse word in them.
Matt
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fogey
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Last Edit: Oct 13, 2010 7:58:06 GMT by fogey
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They are legal, some new cars even have then fitted as standard.
Rubber bushes are cheaper to produce and much better at reducing vibration to the driver though
Most don't like the bad weather, but there are some that withstand it far better than others.
Buy cheap-Buy twice is a very relevant moto for them.
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Dez
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indeed, a lot of cars use them for the ARB droplinks. hence why ive just bought some more to do something similiar on my pickup  they're nowhere near as bad as people are making out- get a high end teflon lined joint with lip seals and fit a grease packed rubber boot and itll last at least as long as a trackrod end, if not longer, and be safer if it ever does go as they're a through-joint. if youre worried about noise/vibration, fit a rose joint to one end of each link and a rubber/poly isolator bush to the other to damp any vibration. this is how ive done my model A rear suspension. the adage about buying good quality stuff is true though- i only buy from McGill motorsport now- find em on ebay, or on their own site. always the best quality out there and delivered next day. |
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Oct 13, 2010 12:18:31 GMT
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Just changed some on the rear of a pug etsate so obv leagal on the road, can't see why the wouldn't be ? poly bushes are.
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g40jon
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Oct 13, 2010 14:12:19 GMT
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the tca's on my polo g40 are rose jointed as std. they have covered 160k, so they can't be that bad imo
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Oct 13, 2010 15:44:51 GMT
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the adage about buying good quality stuff is true though- I only buy from McGill motorsport now- find em on ebay, or on their own site. always the best quality out there and delivered next day. Yep they get my vote aswell ;D The cheap to avoid are some of the e-bay direct from china stuff  |
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Oct 13, 2010 20:43:08 GMT
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Is this vibration more to do with cheap dampers rather then spherical joints? bikes have no give/rubber in their suspension, yet can be quite smooth.
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stealthstylz
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Oct 13, 2010 21:44:51 GMT
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Rose joints just transfer all the suspension vibration straight into the chassis. Not 100% sure, but it may be because all 4 corners are transferring different vibrations at the same time that you can feel them?
Matt
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Oct 13, 2010 21:57:51 GMT
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This isn't a thread about smoking rose bush petals? Aw hell.....
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Oct 13, 2010 22:15:03 GMT
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Rose joints are indeed legal but not a fit and forget item. We see lots of 200sx at work with cheap ebay adjustable & rose jointed arms and they really are curse word. Alos those boots don't help much at all. Just get's in the way when the joint is sticking and has to be cut off.
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This isn't a thread about smoking rose bush petals? Aw hell..... With or without cinnamon? That's some pretty manly smoking there. |
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