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I've decided the body on my '72 Range Rover is "beyond economic repair". Virtually every panel needs replacing and many are no longer available. Shame as it's a rare early 2 door but previous owners bodges mean simpler to start again with something better. Obvious choice is another 2 door shell but they are rare. I've had a 4 door and they don't do anything for me so not an option. Disco (2 door) body will drop straight on so that is main runner at present. Chassis is surprisingly sound and will be galv'd before running gear rebuilt. Original unaltered chassis, engine, gearbox, axles, suspenion and steering means DVLA regard it as a rebody so no IVA needed and tax exempt status retained. Before I opt 100% for a Discovery body anyone other suggestions Thanks. Paul H
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markbognor
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No Idea about wheel base (in)capatabilities,
Rickman ranger One of those wedge things that bruce has Bedford Midi van Series landy
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Since IVA is not needed, I am interested to know what needs to be done regarding registering a change of body.....I have a Diahatsu Sportrak here that has been rolled, wrecking the shell but the chassis etc is fine.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Oct 11, 2010 10:18:36 GMT
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theres a sand coloured 2dr rangie on ebay at the moment Scimitar has same wheelbase Main thing you've got to make sure you do properly is the seatbelt anchors. On Rangies these pass from the chassis through the floorpan and connect to the seat. Other body options might include maybe a Peugeot 306 or something mad. My 72 Rangie is here retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=readersrides&thread=50390
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69 Plymouth Fury Convertible 75 Range Rover 2 door 82 Range Rover 4 door 84 Range Rover 4 door 78 Datsun 120Y 2 door 78 Datsun 120Y Coupe 78 Datsun 620 Pickup 81 Datsun Urvan E23 86 Datsun Vanette van 98 Electric Citroen Berlingo 00 Electric Peugeot Partner 02 Electric Citroen Berlingo 76 Honda C50 04 Berlingo Multispace petrol 07 Land Rover 130 15 Nissan E-NV200 15 Fiat Ducato
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Oct 11, 2010 12:04:17 GMT
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Just come back from scrap yard. Nothing took my fancy. One big problem is engine is set quite a bit back in the chassis so if a FWD shell is plonked on top you'd end up sitting in the back ! I'm not that fond of the Disco interior (I had an early version before) so this afternoon am going to look at a Range Rover / Discovery hybrid body idea. Rangie front "cab" with a 2 door Disco rear. Another idea is make a cab out of the exisiting bodyshell as it's the rear that is the worse affected by bodges / rot and then have a "tray back"
Paul H
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Midas
Part of things
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Oct 11, 2010 20:28:57 GMT
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Dakar?
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MonzaPhil
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Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
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Oct 11, 2010 20:36:48 GMT
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Non rusty Disco 2 door? Good luck. With the way Rangies are put together, you'd probably be better off waiting and gathering the 2 door bits you need. Interior trim is a pain to get but outer panels turn up (good used). I have 2 2 doors awaiting resto and 1 to break and a 4 door to break, lots of work in all of them. My colleague bought a 4 door to put a Scimitar shell on but after the MOT only picked up very minor welding, decided to just patch up and keep it as is.
Any pics of your boggle?
Rangie and Disco chassissss are different.....
Lots of graft to just maintain tax freeness when you could get a taxed and ticket Disco for £500....
Not wishing to sound negative or anything, I hope I don't, but I see a lot of perfectly saveable Rangies cut into trucks or bobbed or having their arches hacked out for offroading which is a shame as they're quite good in standard trim.
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Last Edit: Oct 11, 2010 20:40:54 GMT by MonzaPhil
This is now a clicky linky!
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Oct 11, 2010 20:46:10 GMT
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Since IVA is not needed, I am interested to know what needs to be done regarding registering a change of body.....I have a Diahatsu Sportrak here that has been rolled, wrecking the shell but the chassis etc is fine. Main thing is HOW you do the conversion so a not to run into problems. Basically rebody per rules, send off V5C stating body change , receive contact saying "we want to look", they inspect, agree ( hopefully) all is well and then DVLA change the description on the V5C. Details of how to rebody www.the-ace.org.uk/rebodying-a-clarification.html
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MrT
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Just who did Mr Hitler REALLY think he was kidding?
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Oct 11, 2010 20:49:16 GMT
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How about a VW beach buggy shell? Or... build a larger than normal Mini Moke-esque shell from scratch...
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Oct 11, 2010 21:02:45 GMT
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Come to think of it I've got a load of 2dr rangie panels sitting around too. I think you can still buy inner wings , sills , rear crossmember etc new but I presume the problem bits are the bulkhead , and side frames (go from A pillar to tail lights ) Why isn't anyone making stainless/ally/ galv ones? I was fortunate to find a good bare inner shell for sale to help build mine up.
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Last Edit: Oct 11, 2010 21:06:01 GMT by datman
69 Plymouth Fury Convertible 75 Range Rover 2 door 82 Range Rover 4 door 84 Range Rover 4 door 78 Datsun 120Y 2 door 78 Datsun 120Y Coupe 78 Datsun 620 Pickup 81 Datsun Urvan E23 86 Datsun Vanette van 98 Electric Citroen Berlingo 00 Electric Peugeot Partner 02 Electric Citroen Berlingo 76 Honda C50 04 Berlingo Multispace petrol 07 Land Rover 130 15 Nissan E-NV200 15 Fiat Ducato
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Oct 11, 2010 21:48:31 GMT
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A Defender body?
But I prefer the two door Range-Rover solution
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smellyferret
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Back in a retro after 7 years!
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Oct 11, 2010 21:51:27 GMT
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a fiat 126
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Oct 11, 2010 21:58:06 GMT
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Since IVA is not needed, I am interested to know what needs to be done regarding registering a change of body.....I have a Diahatsu Sportrak here that has been rolled, wrecking the shell but the chassis etc is fine. Main thing is HOW you do the conversion so a not to run into problems. Basically rebody per rules, send off V5C stating body change , receive contact saying "we want to look", they inspect, agree ( hopefully) all is well and then DVLA change the description on the V5C. Details of how to rebody www.the-ace.org.uk/rebodying-a-clarification.html My intention would be to abide by the rules 100%. The chassis would as manufactured including all brackets etc and no modifications with original engine, gearbox, axles, suspension and steering - all of which are luckilly in good condition. One potential worry is it's reg in early '73 but I have a dating certificate stating manufactured 11/12/72. DVLA confirmed that when on the road and MOT's no problem changing to historic catogory but I don't know if they would honour that if I rebody Paul H
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Oct 11, 2010 22:05:41 GMT
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Come to think of it I've got a load of 2dr rangie panels sitting around too. I think you can still buy inner wings , sills , rear crossmember etc new but I presume the problem bits are the bulkhead , and side frames (go from A pillar to tail lights ) Why isn't anyone making stainless/ally/ galv ones? I was fortunate to find a good bare inner shell for sale to help build mine up. The company who made the 2 door repair panles that were sold by various suppliers under different names was bought out by LMC Hadrian who promptly ceased production. For a while there were a few NOS items around but they have now dried up. Main problem is rear inner wings and floor sections which are of course different to 4 door versions. Also front inner wings are no longer available as complete units. You can get the main wheel arch but not the inner aspect nor the numerous smaller panels that go to making up a complete inner wing and headlight boxed are scarce (I haven't found anyone who can still supply). Paul H
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Oct 11, 2010 22:21:18 GMT
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widen a commer van and drop that on it.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 11, 2010 23:52:14 GMT
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been a while since I looked, oh dear! ebay 300443560029 most of the inner wing but £180 a side. I've got a new bulkhead sitting here as a spare for mine ! At least most rangie panels are made from flat metal, not too bad to repair. Edit: looking in ebay completeds.. inner wing sold today for 35 quid. and this used one £27 cgi.ebay.co.uk/190450205279
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Last Edit: Oct 12, 2010 0:00:41 GMT by datman
69 Plymouth Fury Convertible 75 Range Rover 2 door 82 Range Rover 4 door 84 Range Rover 4 door 78 Datsun 120Y 2 door 78 Datsun 120Y Coupe 78 Datsun 620 Pickup 81 Datsun Urvan E23 86 Datsun Vanette van 98 Electric Citroen Berlingo 00 Electric Peugeot Partner 02 Electric Citroen Berlingo 76 Honda C50 04 Berlingo Multispace petrol 07 Land Rover 130 15 Nissan E-NV200 15 Fiat Ducato
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been a while since I looked, oh dear! ebay 300443560029 most of the inner wing but £180 a side. I've got a new bulkhead sitting here as a spare for mine ! At least most rangie panels are made from flat metal, not too bad to repair. The inner wing for £180 isn't even complete ! It's the main part and headlight box. Basically the only bits you can now buy (I've bought main aspect already). The actual inner part and all the minor sections are no longer avaliable. When I added up the cost of repair panels alone, assuming they were still avaliable, it was nudging £1500. That excluded outer panels There comes a time where you have to weigh up what you are prepared to spend and my bodyshell is so poor that not worth the effort. Bulkhead is just about saveable as are B posts. Scrapyard had a Rangie that could donate A posts (exposed hinge type) so I assume they would be easy to source. Roof isn't a problem as easy to find in good condition. Missing inner wing parts can be fabricated leaving everything from B post backwards needing replacment. Even goal post (rear frame around tailgate) is too bad to be worth repairing. The plan (there is always a plan ) is to dismantle body, save anything ( including brackets off scrap panels etc ) reusable, dump total rubbish and then concentrate on getting chassis and running gear refurbished. That will give me time to then look for a better shell or properly decided how to progress. When the body on my last Disco started to fall part I did consider building a "big lightweight" prototype style special - www.dunsfoldcollection.co.uk/gallery/full1/BigLWT.jpg but bought the ex Iraq army CJ5 instead Paul H
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conrad
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Here to fix your cabin.......
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Oct 12, 2010 13:19:50 GMT
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Most sensible thing would be a disco or defender body... but anything about that size should work.. eventually. I did rather like the beach buggy idea though.
People over here pretend theyve rebodied 80s and 90s landrovers adnd rangerovers to avoid paying lots of tax, and get exept from our version of the MOT, hence standard rangie vogue 3.9s driving around with the vin plates and reg from a long dead 60s or 70s LR product stuck on
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Oct 12, 2010 16:42:39 GMT
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Ive got a spare beach buggy shell.... Or how about an Ibex - outstanding vehicles...
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Koos
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Oct 12, 2010 17:59:23 GMT
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Ive got a spare beach buggy shell.... Or how about an Ibex - outstanding vehicles... A homemade Ibex style using the doors and "cab" off a Disco is already one of the options. Doors can be reskinned flat to alter shape. Paul H
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