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Aug 22, 2010 16:28:13 GMT
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Hey all.
I thought i'd ask this on here as there are lots of folk with lots of experience on here.
I've got in my mind what I'm after, looked at a few. But i've found that the ex-police car center in Brierly has TWO of the car I'm after. Of course they're both white, not my first choice but I'm not too fussy as long as they're tidy enough, afterall white is the in-thing at the moment and owning the Fiesta means i have tons of white t-cut!
Just wondered if anyone has had experience with ex police? They a good buy or not to be entertained?
I'm guessing they wont have had the easiest of lives, but serviced well?
The car in question is a 2002/2003 Volvo S60 D5. So would have most likely been on the motorways?
Thanks
Danny
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Aug 22, 2010 16:35:28 GMT
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Had a couple from auctions in the past. Both were fine mechanically, if perhaps a little tired.
Cosmetically they were less good; hence their cheapness. Dashboards were hacked about and just full of huge holes from all the gear, screw holes were everywhere. One of them needed a dose of re-wiring due to lousy removal of electrical gubbins and also had holes in the roof, ruined trim, an extra mirror on the nearside door. Did I mention it was cheap?
Joe
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Aug 22, 2010 16:40:56 GMT
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well these aren't cheap, they're about going rate. So I'm hoping that interiors are in good order and body is average. Few odd marks inside and out is fine.
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Roobeh
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Aug 22, 2010 16:46:09 GMT
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check the cars themselves. all cars become unique the moment they leave the factory.
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olduns
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Aug 22, 2010 17:07:55 GMT
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how many extra hours would a Police car have engine wise over mileage shown due to ticking over in lay-bys etc? sure i read a few years ago article about ex Police cars having looms specifically for their spec sometimes so problems reverting to similar civvy spec. also MOT's ? they don't get them every year, although obviously the cars for sale will have been checked by sellers?
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Aug 22, 2010 17:26:55 GMT
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best advice is note the reg, and check which force owned it, then pop down the local police garage and have a word with one of the mechanics, they will hopefully tell you wether its had smash replacement engines etc. sometime the best ones are the ones that been pranged a few times. where as a patrol car may have never seen the garage because the officer never reports any faults.
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Aug 22, 2010 17:41:03 GMT
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Hey all. I thought i'd ask this on here as there are lots of folk with lots of experience on here. I've got in my mind what I'm after, looked at a few. But i've found that the ex-police car center in Brierly has TWO of the car I'm after. Of course they're both white, not my first choice but I'm not too fussy as long as they're tidy enough, afterall white is the in-thing at the moment and owning the Fiesta means I have tons of white t-cut! Just wondered if anyone has had experience with ex police? They a good buy or not to be entertained? I'm guessing they wont have had the easiest of lives, but serviced well? The car in question is a 2002/2003 Volvo S60 D5. So would have most likely been on the motorways? Thanks Danny S60 D5 is not likely to have been a 'traffic' car so probably didn't spend it's life on the motorway. Chances are it was a Divisional patrol vehicle so won't have been driven by an advanced driver, it will have been ragged senseless from stone cold by dozens of 23 year old Sweeney wannabe's and will have been puked in, p155ed in and generalyy had the rear seat exposed to as many communicable diseases as you can think of That said, they can sometimes be a good buy but should be well below 'proper' retail prices. Police cars are exempt from MOT's but do tend to be well maintained and will have been serviced at the appropriate intervals. Often they will come with a printout of all the work carried out on them from new which is handy to have. I know of an ex-Police Range Rover which was sold less than 2 months after they fitted a brand new, fresh out of the box, 3.9 V8 to replace the shagged one which was in it. Funnily enough the mechanic at the Police garage who fitted to engine went all the way to Oxford to buy it in person A little inside knowledge can be a great thing Bottom line is, like anything else, check it over carefully and only pay what it's worth!
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Granadaman72
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Aug 22, 2010 17:43:20 GMT
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well these aren't cheap, they're about going rate. So I'm hoping that interiors are in good order and body is average. Few odd marks inside and out is fine. In that case i shouldn't bother, unless they are a specific spec your after i,e manual rather than auto as in usual civvy spec etc. They will have led a harder life than normal. I had a mk2 granada once that was ex-police, it was one of the best cars ive ever owned but it was cheaper than the going rate at the time, later i looked over a mk3 Granada but ran a mile because it had soooooo many bodged panel repairs!!!!!
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Aug 22, 2010 18:10:40 GMT
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Just because it's ex-police doesn't mean its been a 'police car'. A lot of them are essentially company cars for high end of the force and have never seen any action. An s60 D5 would be too small for a traffic car, too valuable to be a panda car and unlikely to have been a pursuit car due to being a diesel so it may well be one of these. A friends dad has a Merc CLK350 that was 'ex police'...
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Aug 22, 2010 18:48:23 GMT
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I wouldn't buy one of our old cars - if you knew half of what happens inside one you wouldn't either. And knowing how they've been driven, where they've been driven and the fact that they're on the go almost 24hrs a day it wouldn't be something I'd consider
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Aug 22, 2010 19:08:06 GMT
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Thanks for the info guys. Starting to go off the idea lol. I Have just found a stunner (non ex-plod) in Nuneaton, so I'm gonna bust my neck for an early finish at work tomorrow, see if i cant get down to view it. Seems they're in demand and don't hang around for long Chears
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ChasR
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Aug 22, 2010 19:33:41 GMT
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I would say go and look at it like any other car. Yes they may live a harder life etc. but they are maintained very well, and if you search well, you can choose a good car.
When I was looking for a replacement car after selling the Porsche (I.E, a car that was less than 5 years old (Job doesn't allow for an older car from when it's first used), almost every car I looked at was a wreck (I was looking at Pug 407s and Mondeos). Things like knackered injectors, battered bodywork, all for £3-4.5k in the examples I looked at.
The car I eventually settled on was an ex-SOCA (Serious Organised Crimes Authority). Yes, the wiring for the headlamps I've had to tidy but has it been unreliable and rubbish? Far from it. It's taken me to Europe and back twice and has clocked up 20k within 6 months very well. Did I mention that it came with a new clutch/lower arms/suspension too, so it even drives very well for it's age (better than the other wrecks I saw in the price range).
My dad's car (a year older) came with a full service history, 1 owner and was HPi clear and it was seen to be in great condition. Over the same mileage it covered, it took a new engine, and since then we've been chasing other people's bodges which weren't visible at the time (and to most people wouldn't be).
What I am getting at is forget devaluing it because it's a cop car etc. If it's half decent just go for it. Hell, on the last 'Ring trip I did, my 205 did 1.5k miles without a hitch (did I mention that it has a 'knackered mileage' of 170k?), and my mate's Volvo C70 T5 which are renowned for their solidity melted its wiring loom just at it got there...
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Aug 22, 2010 19:36:44 GMT
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Bodged panel repairs and resprays can be a problem, ask Colonel K!
I would only buy one (of the type you are looking at) if I couldn't get it anywhere else, or it was suitably cheep.
Lewis
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Last Edit: Aug 22, 2010 19:37:13 GMT by lewist123
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Aug 22, 2010 19:59:40 GMT
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I looked at few few ex police cars a East Coast Salvage a few months back, There was a ex-police Focus ST170 Estate there in Silver, The bumpers had holes cut in them for lights, all the tires bald, Interior and dash was damaged, torn and cut up and it had evidents of old badly made repairs. I guess you'd need to be very fussy when buying them and only get the best. There's a bloke on ebay knocking cheap police cars. shop.ebay.co.uk/expolicecar/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25His site is here as well www.expolicecar.co.uk/
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Last Edit: Aug 22, 2010 20:03:05 GMT by trigger
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Aug 22, 2010 20:17:53 GMT
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i have an ex devon and cornwall 51 plate transit 139000miles, it is absolutely great!! i looked at loads of vans and ex police were by far the best [it even has the cage in the back!!!] it may well be like 'triggers broom, with several repairs etc but the history and care is far better than most of the ex builders stuff ,clean inside ,extra seats,extra 12v points and lighting ,tool cage ,rear side windows,roof vent ,altro flooring ,wipe clean panelling etc, ex police car may well have had a hard life but it is almost certainly had as much care as a private sale
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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Aug 22, 2010 21:16:57 GMT
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Ex police stuff can be hit or miss dependant on what it was used for and who was the main drivers etc..
if they were a standard patrol car will have holes cut in dash, plenty of holes cut in the roof.... will have more if it was a traffic car or armed response
all additons to the electrics are put in on seperate looms so no problems there
The servicing is generally every 3000miles and no expense is spared, and as for then not having MOT's carried out the service scheldules and requirements are far stricter than an MOT...and you should be able to get a copy of the service history
Best thing is to take the car on it own merits
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Aug 22, 2010 21:22:22 GMT
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Just checking that you are aware they take off the blues and twos before sale Thats the main advantage to buying one out the window if you ask me ;D
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Aug 23, 2010 20:06:51 GMT
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I've got a 2000 W-reg 4.0 V8 Discovery 2. I'm 99.9% sure it's an ex-police dog vehicle. Owned it for just over a year. 74,000 miles, full history, never seen a bodyshop, seat covers from new, seats are genuinely perfect. There are 4 holes in the boot floor, presumably for a dog cage, 6 tiny holes in the dash and centre console, and the cubby box has been cut out a little to fit the radio. Oh, and 3 small holes in the roof that are perfectly sealed with grommets. It is a beauty! I'm in the Discovery Owners Club and it always gets favourable comments.
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jamesv
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Aug 23, 2010 20:12:19 GMT
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i was a production manager for two of the larger police livery suppliers (you know the battenberg sticker kits) and the amount of crash repair panels we'd do was unreal, mechanically they're generally immaculate, but usually had more hits than the Beatles
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ChasR
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Aug 23, 2010 20:33:22 GMT
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And so do many cars out there. Two of my mate's cars had 3 nasty prangs (one mate bent his lower arm back the other bent the hub on his X-Type (repair bill of £2k from the garage (non Jag (I remember my mechanic saying that the damage didn't ring in with what my mate said happened (he was and is still keen on his right foot)) so as to avoid the insurance. Because they were low mileage and in good condition they fetched alot of cash when sold. There is no way you can guarantee the history of the car unless you witnessed its life.
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Last Edit: Aug 23, 2010 20:34:31 GMT by ChasR
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