fogey
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Those of you with cars scraping the ground and stretched tyres should read Dave Walker's piece in the August 2010 issue of PPC magazine because he is 100% correct.
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ThePollitt
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Brilliant, thanks for that.
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Haven't read it yet, it's sitting at home in the unread pile. What is it he actually has to say about it, fogey?
I'll be honest, I'm starting to go off PPC a bit. I've been subscribing for years and used to love it, but it feels a bit lacklustre these days...
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Stu_B
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Yeah how about a breakdown of the article as I'm not going to buy a copy. My car is almost scraping the ground & I haven't got stretched tyres yet....
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Those of you with cars scraping the ground and stretched tyres should read Dave Walker's piece in the August 2010 issue of PPC magazine because he is 100% correct. Got it two weeks ago and when I read 'Walker's Workshop' I had a wry smile on my face. I used to read CCC so Dave Walker is god in my book. You do realise your words will fall on deaf ears for the most part here... |
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Seth
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Does he say its bad for vehicle performance/handling/dynamics?  Shock! |
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable. |
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Hey, hold on there a minute... someone's actually written negative things about lowered cars and stretched tyres?! Well, this needs to be discussed! I'll bump this up to the top so we can have an argument about it for the 43rd time this year.  |
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Last Edit: Aug 2, 2010 13:21:27 GMT by BenzBoy
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Like angle grinder special springs?
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fogey
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QUOTE:
''If enough idiots (sorry I mean youths) modify their cars so that they are dangerous there are going to be accidents. This could be followed by our responsible press screaming for 'something to be done' and the next thing you know we're like France; where it's illegal to modify your car - in any shape or form.''
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Last Edit: Aug 2, 2010 13:31:34 GMT by fogey
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Can't beat a bit of logic, rationality and tolerance. |
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fogey
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I used to read CCC so Dave Walker is god in my book. You do realise your words will fall on deaf ears for the most part here... Sadly you are correct. |
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i'd imagine more crashes are caused by blind idiocy (i.e. stupid people, unable to look where they are going or keep any sort of distance) than by people with lowered cars.
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Seth
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I just hope no one ever uses the extra performance they have given their car to drive too fast on the public road. An outcry could cause problems for those of us that play with slow ones!
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Last Edit: Aug 2, 2010 13:39:21 GMT by Seth
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QUOTE: ''If enough idiots (sorry I mean youths) modify their cars so that they are dangerous there are going to be accidents. This could be followed by our responsible press screaming for 'something to be done' and the next thing you know we're like France; where it's illegal to modify your car - in any shape or form.'' Very interesting generalisation  The statistics show that it isn't youths modifying their cars that are causing accidents, it's youths that don't know their steering wheel from their gear knob with no knowledge of maintenance that are causing accidents. And I know for a fact that of all of my friends, the ones who fiddle with their cars are the ones that respect them most and don't drive stupidly, they also tend to value their licenses. Tbh I would have expected better of Mr Walker. |
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Guns don't kill people, people kill peopleCars don't cause accidents, drivers cause accidents You do realise your words will fall on deaf ears for the most part here... Amazo, why do you come on here? |
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Although I agree with the posters that have pointed out the obvious scaremongering factor in all this..... I think that there are many people and groups just waiting for the opportunity to turn their attention to what they believe is another 'good cause'. Is also very unlikely that they will single out what they believe to be the more 'dodgy' modifications. They're not stupid..... they know that modders will just modify their methods to get the same result. It would be tragic if the stupidity of the few, brought about a total ban on the many.
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nconst
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ohh no's lowered carz wiv stretchedd tyrez are dangerous !!!  seriously who gives a curse word people with proper stanced cars with stretch and poke/tuck don't drive there cars like idiots . PPC really has become a shoddy mag last time I'm gunna buy it this month which is a shame because it used to be a good read  |
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I like a lowered car like the next man, and I'm not a massive fan of DW having met him, BUT there is a thread on E38 with some (insert own opinion) with a lowered Touran (no air)
Lowered so that the chassis rails run on the ground, and it fractures the cast ally subframes for fun, the very same subframes that locate the wishbones.. Quite duly he got pulled, taken to court and banned from driving for a short period. When he got banned all the other idoits on the thread were like 'woah dude, you got banned for lows, your like soo cool dude' etc.
I think that this is the type of behaviuor that DW is having a rant about because, to be honest, it's frickin stupid.
If your car is lowered nicely, don't take offence, I don't and won't. If on the other hand you are scraping fame or whatever they call it, expect to have an accident and the consequences.
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There was the case of the modified landrover that crashed and killed the kids that were in it, the press DID jump on it, and then VOSA started jumping on modded 4x4's.
It DOES happen, and it WILL happen again, if its a modified vehicle then the modifications will be the "cause" of the crash whatever the real reasons were.
Having said that, then those that choose to modify cars outside the law won't be stopped by advice on a forum or in a magazine, they are choosing to drive a car thats not legal so they wont choose to listen to anyone if they wont listen to the police.
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Shock!
The statistics show that it isn't youths modifying their cars that are causing accidents, it's youths that don't know their steering wheel from their gear knob with no knowledge of maintenance that are causing accidents. And I know for a fact that of all of my friends, the ones who fiddle with their cars are the ones that respect them most and don't drive stupidly, they also tend to value their licenses.
seriously who gives a curse word people with proper stanced cars with stretch and poke/tuck don't drive there cars like idiots . PPC really has become a shoddy mag last time I'm gunna buy it this month which is a shame because it used to be a good read 
