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Jun 24, 2010 10:54:27 GMT
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I'm assuming not or you'd see it done all the time to get more dish, so why not is my question? Surely it makes no difference?
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Stu_B
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Jun 24, 2010 11:03:31 GMT
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Cos you need a flat face mounted against the hub...
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Jun 24, 2010 11:07:12 GMT
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google up 'reversed steels'
- you need the centre to be in the 'factory' position, but the rim section on the other way around, for EPIC DISH WIN
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stevea
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Jun 24, 2010 11:09:44 GMT
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and the chamfer for the wheel nuts will not be present on a Herald rim if you reverse the centre, giving poor location of the wheel as they are nut-centric, not hub-centric like many more modern cars.
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Jun 24, 2010 11:24:32 GMT
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for standard herald rims it will look wibblepoo. look at the inner wheel pressings they wont suit the look.
better off with some vitesse or gt6 rims, which be wider to start with. plus strain put on trunions is likely to cause few issues.
are you planning to re fit the hubcaps?
Wheels i'd use would be Marina TC steels and they are wide and can be made atractive the right way round.
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Jun 24, 2010 13:00:55 GMT
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I saw a banger racer do it once on a Metro to finish a race, works wonders to clear bashed up arches and good for about 5 laps til it fell off ;D
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Jun 24, 2010 13:09:31 GMT
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The rear wheel on an Isetta bubble car is fitted the wrong way round !
Cann't remember how as 25 years since I owned miine but seem to think it had some sort of plate with the tapers that went on the outside.
Paul H
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Jun 24, 2010 15:01:34 GMT
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for standard herald rims it will look wibblepoo. look at the inner wheel pressings they wont suit the look. better off with some vitesse or gt6 rims, which be wider to start with. plus strain put on trunions is likely to cause few issues. are you planning to re fit the hubcaps? Wheels i'd use would be Marina TC steels and they are wide and can be made atractive the right way round. they look alright to me, albeit they would with some paint. Wasn't particularly wanting to refit the hub caps. I guess it's going to be a no no anyway though. Surely strain on trunnions should not be too much of an issue because don't spitfires/gt6s have wider wheels and the same trunnions anyway? would it do any harm to put the wheel on backwards, lower the car back down, just to get an idea of what banded/otherwise widish steels may look like? |
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Jun 24, 2010 15:54:46 GMT
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I used to fit the rear steels on my Eagle kit car the wrong way round so they filled out the arches, looked daft from the rear though, never had any bother with them, just didnt look great.
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Jun 24, 2010 17:45:45 GMT
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Surely strain on trunnions should not be too much of an issue because don't spitfires/gt6s have wider wheels and the same trunnions anyway? I'm afraid it ain't that simple mate.Its the offset that does the damage,not the total width of the wheel. If you look at your Herald's rims you'll see that the inside has more dish than the outside(which is why you want to put em on backwards incidentally). If you fit them backwards the middle of the rim will be moved outwards,placing a lot of strain on suspension components simply because it can exert more leverage on them. That's the main idea at least. Can't really give you an indepth explanation as I'm afraid thats all I know! But it's a start! ;D |
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Jun 24, 2010 17:52:48 GMT
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but the center of the wheel would also be moved outwards if you fit wider wheels and tires...
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Potter
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Jun 24, 2010 18:04:54 GMT
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I don't think the centre will move with proper wide wheels. Just that there'll be more rim depth on either side.
I hope someone can explain it properly though as I feel I just might be making a fool of myself!
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Jun 24, 2010 18:23:52 GMT
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if that is the case then that would make sense, but with banded steels and the like, they are only made wider from the center out, not either side of the center usually.
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Jun 24, 2010 19:14:05 GMT
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your talking about offset, ie, how far off centre the mounting face off the wheel is copared to the centre line of the wheel, most cars can cope with a variety of offsets, but altering it will alter the handling and feel of the car and could wear various components faster than usual.
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Jun 24, 2010 19:23:14 GMT
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that and as all ready mentioned you need as close to flat surface as possible as the bolts not centerbore secure wheels. I'm all for trying it on most cars, but with a heralds marginal suspension. Rear suspension tow in. 40ish years. you'll find that 165 tyres on 5.5j rims will fill the arches as much as is really sensible on a herald. I had some mega wide Wellers on a Vitesse, and it was horrible, despite beefed up estate rear springs.
If only i had all my old heralds i'd do it and let you see what you think!
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