slammed 66
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Ive got a sweet set of 8x15s that I'm sure will look the shizz on my s12 but the problem is they're in a 4x100 flavour and I'm needing them in a 4x114.3 I read the recent article in PPC on re drilling the pcd but I'm by no means tallented enough to do this my self so will be needing the services of an experienced engineering firm. For ease of future applications id kinda like to keep the 4x100 pattern and have the 4x114.3 what worries me about a multi pcd is will the wheel be integrally strong enough to cope with the missing metal? They are a german wheel so are TUV approved which gives confidence in there build quality and i know you can walk into halfords and buy some multi pcd wheels off the shelf. Here are the wheels in question, Scmitt modern lines: So, 3 questions: 1; does it look safe/possible to have a multi pcd on them? 2; can you recommend a competant firm to me to do the work? 3; any ideas what i should be looking to pay? for your constant efforts i shall reward you with some cars Thankyou good people Ross ;D
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I reckon it might be worth having a chat with a local engineering firm. Have you considered adaptors? It'd give you the opportunity to fine tune offsets too.
Personally, I reckon in the long run you might be better of selling the rims on (4x100 Schmidts should sell well) and buying something that bolts straight on.
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nuu don't do it, There are millions of 4x114.3 wheels out there, and multi-stud wheels look ugly! You want something like these: Sell the scmitt lines to a vw boy on wheelwhores or something (though they are a stunning set of wheels)
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Firstly, I'm all for re-drilling wheels. You hear scaremongering out there, but that is usually ill informed people who like to point fingers and shout loudly yet have little or no understanding of what they are really doing. Unless you have centre caps which cover the wheels nuts, plug, weld & redrill is a neater way to do it (alloy plug the original hole, welded & smoothed...then redrilled between where the existing holes used to be) but multi-stud is not unsafe at all. A lot of aftermarket wheel manufacturers make multi-fitment wheels to cater for things like 4x100/4x108. (see photo below of a set that I have) Getting them done by an engineering firm is always a good move. Unless you have access to the proper machines and are confident with basic engineering/machining then leaving it to the pros is certainly the way forward with something critical like this. I'm sure there are people who have attempted it with a cordless drill, a dremel and a healthy does of guesswork, but this is not the way to tackle the job and anyone doing it this way is a bit stupid! Anyway, enough about that! Now to your wheels. I don't reckon they can be re-drilled to 114.3 because the existing 4x100 holes are just sitting in the edge of the shoulder of the recess. Go out another 7.15mm to make them 114.3 and you'll have a hole right across the shoulder which will not only need a massive taper to get the nut/stud to seat....but will also look very odd! With this in mind I would personally look for another set of wheels. Don't limit yourself just to 4x114.3's - there are probably other styles which would look awesome that you can get in other fitments, then redrilled, but always look at HOW & WHERE the holes are drilled and judge if there is enough room in the wheel design to cater for a wider stud pattern.
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Is it not possible to have your hubs redrilled and drums redrilled?
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If I had two brains I,d still be a halfwit 1969 Morris Minor Traveller
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When I looked into redrilling my Lupo to 4x108, I found there wasn't sufficient space on the hubs, but 4x114 to 4x100 has a better chance of working out.
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Doesn't look to me like there's going to be enough space. Each nut has to move outwards by about 7mm and to my eye I think it's going to eat the side of the recess.
Adaptors or get the hubs redrilled?
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Feb 15, 2010 11:29:34 GMT
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Some wheels are also made with cavities between the 4 main stud holes so there isn't much to drill into.
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Feb 16, 2010 18:15:16 GMT
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Look at getting the hubs re-drilled. Sometimes it's a LOT easier and cheaper.
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slammed 66
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Feb 16, 2010 22:02:39 GMT
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hmm, perhaps the re-drilled hubs idea would actually be better.
I ve found some adapters on american ebay but they're $90 per pair plus post at $50 plus import duties and then theres extra cocking about with longer studs etc.
I'll wait till i find someone breaking an s12 and bag the hubs from that.
Thanks for your input guys. I knew RR would turn up trumps again
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re-drilling wheelsChasR
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Feb 16, 2010 22:57:41 GMT
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The other choice is to get some Revolution RFXs from an MGB. Not mega common, but they do still crop up now and again for not ridiculous money.
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