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Jan 20, 2010 10:47:16 GMT
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anyone got info on weber 32/36 dgv carb general info required nothing written in stone to use but all options interested in for future vitara 8v use
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Jan 20, 2010 11:40:08 GMT
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What do you need to know?
Came on 2l Sierras and other Pinto powered cars. Twin choke with a progressive linkage, so the 32mm choke is the only one used until you push the throttle to a certain point and the second choke opens. Some had a mechanical cold-start choke and some had an automatic one connected to the cooling system. The automatic one was well recognised as being unreliable and most people used to disconnect it or swap it to a mechanical one.
You can buy them new from Webcon.
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Jan 20, 2010 11:45:35 GMT
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should be good for up to about 140bhp, over that you can move up to the 3 litre capri non progressive version but they are quite dear now, better options for the money these days.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jan 20, 2010 11:49:52 GMT
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anyone know about adaptors needed for vitara 8v
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kenb
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Jan 20, 2010 12:15:39 GMT
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You can get a lot more than 140hp from them. The Brisca F2 boys use them and are getting 170+.
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Jan 20, 2010 12:28:02 GMT
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a stock cortina weber will be a restriction on anything over a 140bhp engine, they will fuel a higher performance engine than that, but not as well as other carbs will.
Its the same as having a standard exhaust on a car, you can still extract more power by changing other parts but it will be easier and give more gains to just change the exhaust.
Are they restricted to these carbs by class restrictions? if not i don't know why they don't just use the capri carb?
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jan 20, 2010 15:15:08 GMT
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Are they restricted to these carbs by class restrictions? Yes, they are limited to the 32/36 - the 170+ bhp the top drivers get is true & you are right in that it's the carb that is the primary power restriction - you'd not see that on a road spec engine on a 32/36, these are fully built race engines built to rev like there is no tomorrow - same torque + more revs = more bhp, at sensible rpm, the bhp figure would be rather less. The 3.0 Capri/Granada V6 Weber is the 38DGAS - about £50-60 on egay at the moment... If you put one of them on a 4 pot then be prepared to visit the pump a lot (been there, done that), they have synchronised throttles and will throw buckets of fuel in on part throttle VS a DGAV. The DGAV has fairly lean jetting on the primary (smaller) throttle which opens first, and richer jetting on the secondary (larger) which only starts to open at 1/2 throttle & more, so they give a good balance of power/economy - the DGAS doesn't, unless you fabricate or can buy a different throttle linkage? There is also the DFV series of carbs which go up to 40 DFAV from the 3.0 scimitar and zodiac - currentl £60-90 on egay. Anything bigger that that and you are into the esoteric stuff & might as well buy performance carbs like the DCNF/DCOE's. The DFV is a good racing carb as it can be fitted with a vacum power enrichment circuit (like a continuous accelerator pump that operates on vacum demand) & was used in Formula Ford etc... The jets etc... are interchangeable between DGAS, DGAV, DFAV etc... & I usually scavenge scrap carbs for bits to set other ones up!
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Jan 20, 2010 15:18:07 GMT
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thanks wilko for info
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kenb
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Jan 20, 2010 15:51:24 GMT
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My Zetec is running a 32/36 from a 2 litre. The Zetec is a 1800 130bhp standard unit apart from running megajolt. It rolling roaded at 139bhp. The carb still had to be jetted downwards as it was running far too rich. The same carb set up is now going on a 2 litre set up, again standard 136 cams plus the megajolt. It will be interesting to see what this comes out at when that is rolling roaded. I would have thought that as long as the carb can cope with the increased airflow then you will have no problem getting the hp dependant of course, on the engine its attached to. The only reason the racing pinto mentioned earlier has all the cams etc is because they are are poor flowing head in standard form & they not allowed to do that much to them per the rules so have to increase the head breathing capability in other ways, plus the fact its 40 year old technology.
You can also get a progressive throttle kit for the DGAS as welll should you want to go that route. Cant remember where i saw it though.
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Jan 20, 2010 16:03:05 GMT
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Heard that you get about 145bhp on a standard 2.0 black top Zetec with 32/36 DGAV and megajolt, silver tops a little bit less.
When you say the carb had to be leaned out, do you mean smaller main jets or bigger air correctors, or both?
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2010 16:06:59 GMT by wilko
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kenb
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Jan 20, 2010 16:10:19 GMT
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Deffo main jets, cant remember if they did the air correctors tbh.
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