Potter
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Dec 20, 2009 13:14:34 GMT
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Hi lads. Anyone familiar with TIG welders? I've been thinking about investing in a bigger MIG for somet time but I've seen TIGs going for not much more and I'm tempted.So please clue me up. What exactly can I weld with a TIG? Can I get rid of my MIG and weld in patch panels with a TIG?( I'm a panel beater by trade so lots of rust cutting is the order of the day) Can it be had in single phase? Are consumables very dear? What sort of model/power output should I go for for general purpose use? And any useful tips you can think of are more than welcome.
Thanks in advance and a very Merry Christmas to you all!!
Tom
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More cars than sense or money!🙄
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Dec 20, 2009 14:34:45 GMT
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I much prefer tig welding mate, its just much nicer and neater With dc tig you can only weld ferrous metals, to weld ally you need an ac/dc machine. you can pick up a cheap 200 amp dc machine off ebay for 150 odd quid, which will weld up to 6mm steel IIRC. An ac/dc machine will set you back at least 4 times that for a cheap/old machine. the tips are not expensive, about 2 quid each, filler wire is about the same as mig wire. and you need good quality argon/argoshiled with tig for nice welds. You cant use C02. I vote tig all day long. I'm saving my pennies to get an ac/dc machine, as i need to make an inlet manifold for my supercharged 1uzfe
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Dec 20, 2009 17:36:23 GMT
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I'm just looking for a TIG welder at the moment, I've only been welding a short while, and was going to buy a MIG welder first, but after being given one, my funds are now going towards a TIG. For an AC/DC TIG you're looking at anything from £1K upwards. An excellent forum I have found for all things welding is Mig-welding.co.uk have a look on there
Matt
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10mpg
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Dec 20, 2009 18:08:51 GMT
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I use tig for delicate/ornate work stainless and ally and also for a few jobs that can be done better by tig such as joining the edges of two sheets together..
For all general car repairs and most steel fabrication I use the mig its much much quicker, easier and cheaper, tig I find is much easier to use on a bench, for working upside down or at an angle mig is king...
Having both is best but if I were to only have one it'd be my mig everyday
Price wise argon is more than Co2 and you get through tig tips much quicker than mig tips..
A decent secondhand 240 ming say 180amp will cost around 300 wheras a similar standard AC/DC tig will cost around 550..
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Last Edit: Dec 20, 2009 18:11:24 GMT by 10mpg
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Potter
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'E who dares wins,eh Rodders??!
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Dec 22, 2009 19:08:09 GMT
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Cheers lads! Looks like I'll be keeping the MIG then. However TIG prices are very encouraging! 10MPG would that be a 3 phase machine? Cos I work in the house garage,which of course uses the good ol 3 pin! Just had a browse through the Machine Mart website. What exactly is an ARC/TIG inverter? COs they seem to be really cheap. Also what would be a decent spec to get me started?Stuff like foot pedals and digital controls and what not? Is all that necessary?
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Last Edit: Dec 22, 2009 19:21:00 GMT by Potter
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Foot pedals are for me a must for really neat welding on thin stuff, I'd hate to tig without one, though it does keep you stuck at the welding bench...
The inverters seem good value and nicely compact though the only one I tried was rubbish with really poor power control, though that was a real cheap Chinese one so i'd hate to condemn them all on that one.. they are basically using an arc welder to supply the grunt for a tig torch and quite often they are scratch start, low power and rarely AC/DC
I was talking 3phase but i'd imagine 240v ones wouldnt be to much more...
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I have a 240v tig welder, bought from ebay to weld a few bits on my cage on the bmw, in teh end i didnt use it, only played with it... Paid £120 for it new, anyones for £70... I'm in Widnes
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