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Nov 19, 2009 21:51:30 GMT
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Thanks for the info guys Really quite hooked on the idea of a Granada, think I'll rock it auto for a bit then slowly collect the bit I need for the conversion (although I've done stuff like this before and never get round to actually doing it!) As for which box an MT75 would be the better one to go for, maybe get an XR4x4 MT75 box and remove the fwd bit? I'm confident that Ford is where my heart is and a Granada is a logical step seeing as I've owned an XR2, two XR3i's, a 2.0 Sierra and an XR4i.
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Nov 19, 2009 23:09:16 GMT
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Get a Carlton, and re-create Project Thunder
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Nov 19, 2009 23:19:07 GMT
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Thanks for the info guys Really quite hooked on the idea of a Granada, think I'll rock it auto for a bit then slowly collect the bit I need for the conversion (although I've done stuff like this before and never get round to actually doing it!) As for which box an MT75 would be the better one to go for, maybe get an XR4x4 MT75 box and remove the fwd bit? I'm confident that Ford is where my heart is and a Granada is a logical step seeing as I've owned an XR2, two XR3i's, a 2.0 Sierra and an XR4i. building a hybrid box is more complicated than just removing the fwd bit, you need some special tools, a v6 4x4 box and 4 pot rwd one, you have to use the back half of the rwd box with the front half of the V6 one, but you cant use the input shaft of the 4 pot box as its not long enough for a V6 so you need to swop some gears and shafts around. Or buy a hybrid box already built, about 300 quid last time i looked, which as it happens isnt that dear and is still cheaper than fixing an auto, or, see if any one will grab you a proper RWD V6 box from europe, the only difference is the clutch arm comes out the other side of the box, but theres room for it and you can buy long enough cables to work it so its no bother, or once again you could swop the front of a Uk 4x4 box onto it, without having to mess around with swopping gears.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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MWF
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I've had two modified Colognes with Type-9's on, one was a TurboTechnics conversion and the other a 3.1 Stage 2 Specialised Engines conversion. Both took the power (200bhp+) without problems, the TurboTechnics car having been thrashed around with the box since new (16 years).
In the case of the TT conversion I have heard they may have made a minor change to the bearings to prevent wear?
In terms of sheer availability I wouldn't discount the Type-9 but as Popuptoaster says they aren't as cheap and available now as they used to be and you might find a 2wd MT75 first.
Mind you I personally think an Auto suits the Granada.
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Nov 20, 2009 11:47:39 GMT
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didnt the TT boxes have a reinforced top plate to help stop the casing twisting? you can beef up a type 9 quite succesfully, but once again it can get expensive and you'd be beefing up an older designed box when theres a more modern lighter one available. I guess its what you find laying around first, but i have managed to break a few type 9s in mk2 grannies over the years with the stock 2.8i's, not broken an MT75 yet, although the 4x4 sierra cossie boys can do it with a bit of tuning.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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MWF
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Nov 20, 2009 11:57:29 GMT
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didnt the TT boxes have a reinforced top plate to help stop the casing twisting? I don't know, not a great deal of facts seem available sadly. I agree it's a case of what comes up first that's going to be usable.
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Nov 20, 2009 17:02:24 GMT
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I'm talking about the 2.8 type 9 box, as far as I rmember the 2.3 boxes were more similar internally to the 4 pot boxes than the 6 pot ones . Yes they are - the 2.8 boxes have a set of caged roller bearings on the input shaft similar to a T5 & the 2.3 boxes have needle bearings like the 4 pot boxes; the early 2.8 5 speed boxes are the same as the 2.3 - the easiest way to tell the difference is to unbolt the bellhousing, on the "proper" 2.8 boxes have a bit more sticking out and there is a recess in the bellhousing to accomodate it. I do wonder how many of the "letting go type 9's" fitted to 24v lumps came from a 2.3 or early 2.8 rather than the stronger box? Strangely, I think the 2.3 Diesel type 9's are the same spec as the 2.8...? & lastly, not sure if it helps in any way, but another random fact is that the type 9 on the 2.8 XR4x4 has an alloy bellhousing, the others are steel.
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Nov 20, 2009 17:32:35 GMT
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despite all of the above, if i had another granny cossie, i would definately be looking at another manual conversion, it changes the car so much and the cossie grannies handle pretty well for their size and with that slipper they are fun!
i do like autos, but it makes a nice car into a great car (for the money) if i spotted a booted one with a broken autobox and the recaro interior i'd snap it up.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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