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Been looking at the 20v turbos, Performance seems amazing for the price, 0-100 mph in 14.5 secs! looks good too. But will it break?
Last fiat I had was an 850 coupe that turned to oxide...
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good value for the peformance but IIRC to do the clutch is an engine out job
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Not only the clutch but on the early models it was engine out to do the cam belt. So if you are looking make sure it has been done recently.
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I think the cam belt is lots of money to do.Not sure why just something i have been told.
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Not necessarily, just make sure the one you get has a very good service history (with receipts and stamps), has had its cambelt done (big job). Basically buy the best one you can find or it may bite you in the ass. Its really the electricals with fiats that can be a problem.
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I think the cam belt is lots of money to do.Not sure why just something I have been told. Something ridiculous hour wise so labour would be huge. |
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Like an Alfa Romeo, accept that owning one may cost money to keep it in best order. They don't take well to neglect but can be reliable, offer a fantastic engine noise and handling package and look excellent. Don't discount the 20v non-turbo. Less tyre-shredding but plenty quick enough for most. Wouldn't bother with a four-pot though.
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My advice - get it professionally looked at before you buy. I've had two Coupe Turbos - the second one was fine, but the first one was nothing but trouble. Seemed brilliant when I took it for a test drive, but within a couple of weeks it was new clutch time (it wasn't worn, it was just curse word - suspect it was a cheap aftermarket job). Then it developed hot start problems, refused to idle properly, random warning lights kept appearing (but it is Italian, you can't expect the electrics to be any good) - as with any car, just buy the best one you can!
Don't let me put you off - the acceleration is epic, gearchange is superb, handling is spot-on and the quirky interior is a lovely place to be.
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Incidentally, both of mine were four-pot 16v turbo models. It's basically the Delta Integrale engine, doncherknow!  |
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My mates got one, i beleive he melted a piston soon after ownership, but i think this was due to him upping the boost to a silly level! He's had it a fair old time since the rebuild and i belive its been holding up fine! Its the 20v model as well...
Probably one of the sexiest dashboards ever as well???
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If it helps your decision: the 20v engine noise is by far the sexiest sub-8 cylinder engine noise on the planet.
People will literally go weak at the knees when you drive past.
As said, though - big service bills, awkwardly laid out engine bay etc.
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arent they a silly high insurance group?
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Sentiment is much the same as above - engine bay is very (very!) tight, chassis just about handles the power standard, so can be very torque-steery with higher power. Look great though, go very well (especially for the money), and sound fantastic. -edit- Yes - group 19 insurance.... Still, only cost me 600 fully comp at 23 a couple of years ago. Gratuitous my-old-car shot:-  |
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Last Edit: Oct 6, 2009 16:29:31 GMT by Ghost
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For some reason I'm not surprised when I read that Chris Bangle designed those. ;D
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So long as it's not your daily, who cares about unreliability? Possibly one of the best looking coupes of all time.
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1969 MG Midget
1972 Avenger GT
1981 Datsun Cherry
1989 Corolla
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1996 Ford Telstar (bet you had to google that one)
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Yum, lovely cars go for it!
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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The one that worked quite well...  ...and the one that broke all the time.  I think they look best in green (although no-one seems to agree with me). |
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didnt realise these were 5 cylinder. There is something about the sound off a 5 cylinder engine that sounds awesome. The Focus ST sounds immense, my Toledo V5 sounded fab when it was on the rolling road  5 pot = win!! |
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We run 2 standard 16v Coupes as mileage munchers -one on 156k,one 203k.
Mrs is happy to do a120 mile daily commute in them. No real probs-for Fiats, although the engines do die without warning.
However-it only takes a morning to change-so no worries
Cheap, nil depreciation ,30-35 mpg -and it is a 2 litre! 20vturbo always better- but for everyday commuting?
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Indeed I did pop a piston my little 2002Gimp friend, although in my defence the boost was hoked up by Mr previous owner. Granted I could have turned it down, but in my naivety I left as was until one day I was overtaken by a Ford Ka on a hill.....at which point I decided something was amiss  Apart from the above, I've been running mine as a daily for 4 1/2 years with no major problems (touch wood ). Ive got the 20V Turbo (Sprint Blue - best colour, although thats one argument that continues over on the Coupe forum...!) and it returns reasonable MPG as long as you don't drive like a nutter everywhere. Well worth fitting a switchable boost controller - saved me a fortune on juice... With regards to the cambelt - Fiat quoted £1400 originally to be done a a main dealer. Shop around (go to a specialist such as Motormech in Birmingham) and the price comes down to around £400 all in. And if you do get one, avoid Fiat dealerships like the plague! They know about as much of the Fiat Coupe as I do about quantum physics (although I am aware that quantum physics exists, whereas Fiat....you get the idea). Like any car, get a good one with history and good maintenance, and it will run and run. Get a bad one, and it will always be a bad one. If you can afford a 20V Turbo, its the best to go for (not much dearer than the 20V non turbo, and better specced than the 16v's. Goes like stink, looks the dogs danglies, and gets looks wherever you go  And hello - 'long time listener first time caller' - wondered how long it would be before I popped my forum cherry and posted... ;D |
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