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Sept 29, 2009 17:49:19 GMT
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My sister has a 1998/9 Ford Transit.
It was a builders van and is ply lined in the back with a ply bulkhead rear of the front seats. She wants me to fit a set of rear seats (bench seat) I think she said the seatbelts were incorperated into the seats and that they were for a transit and wants them fitted in the normal position.
My question is, is there any chance these seats will be a bolt on job with this van? or will I have to be welding on re-enforcing plates for the floor or whatever. (not something I really want to get into)
She called this morning to ask and shes coming over tomorrow afternoon, she is leaving early the next day. (typical)
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Last Edit: Sept 29, 2009 17:51:41 GMT by suterman
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Sept 29, 2009 18:13:09 GMT
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It's quite possible that it may have bolt holes allready in the floor ready for the seats to go in. Unscrew the plywood and have a look.
It could be that the bolt holes will allready have eyebolts in them.
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Sept 29, 2009 19:25:29 GMT
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cheers
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Sept 29, 2009 19:43:47 GMT
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You might need to check about DVLA regs maybe?
Dunno about over there but here you have to inform our equivalent of the doovla (ADT) that you're fitting seats into a vehicle registered as a commercial one.
They'll issue a new logbook with the new details ( number of persons seated and type of registration-private vehicle or something along those lines) and the road tax might be more expensive.
Juts thought I'd mention it
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will
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Sept 29, 2009 19:45:32 GMT
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Not sure, but the above sounds likely. Know that many have seats in the back and i,ve got one with the same plans too but have yet to lift the ply, mainly cos its gonna need some welding action where the exhaust runs over the axle with a predictable dirt, heat road salt scenario. Would be interested in your findings as am planing a familycamper and need more seating for the kiddies Tatty transits rule  Been looking for an excuse to post its non-retroness, second time I've owned this one but this time its keeps |
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Sept 29, 2009 20:08:29 GMT
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We had a few customer wanting extra seats in the back of the vans, one was a bit of a funny one, they serviced industrial septic tanks or something. We had to have an additional seat fitted in the back for the poor guy who went into the tanks, they didn't want the guy sitting up front stinking up the cab.
Any how, any seats we have fitted have to leave with a certificate (more for the warranty I think), I think the DVLA only need to get involved If your making it into a minibus or something (more then 8 seats?) coz it re classifies the van.
Bare in mind that the floor in these vans is far from flat, all ribbed length ways, we have special spreader plates folded to fit inside the ribs under the van. The only other thing to deal is with under the van is the location of the fuel tank and the crossmembers always positioned in the worst place.
You don't mention if your going to refit the bulkhead behind the bench seat at all?
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Sept 30, 2009 6:29:47 GMT
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Thanks guys.
Its up to my sister to sort out the paperwork but I will mention it to her, I'm pretty sure you're right about the v5 needing amendment
I only have a few hours to do this job, and I'm not planning to fit the seats if they aren't going to fit. I don't want to be losing sleep over worrying about my niece and nephew riding in them in the case of an accident..
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Sept 30, 2009 7:49:34 GMT
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Re the paperwork, DVLA will definately need informed as the seating capacity is changing. They will very probably want to have the installation inspected too. She will also need to inform her insurers as it will not currently be covered for extra passangers.
As for fitting them, I doubt it will be a bolt-in job. I don't ever remember seeing fitting points on the floor of vans, and minibuses etc have special rails fitted to take the rear seating.
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Sept 30, 2009 20:31:22 GMT
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well I pulled up the the plywood and there was no way of fitting the seats properly. I could have drilled holes in the floor and bolted it on but I didn't want to without strengthening the floor with beams underneath and there wasn't time for that. There was also a foot sized (whoops) rusty hole in the middle of the floor and holes else where in the floor too. It needs more work basically. Apart from the rust and a broken tail light the van is ok but my sister just wont listen when I say things need sorting out.
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Sept 30, 2009 20:51:31 GMT
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other point is the lack of approved seatbelt anchorages
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retired with too many projects!
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Sept 30, 2009 21:03:28 GMT
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yeah and there was also a short strap that goes to the side of the van from about halfway up the back of the righthand of the seat
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Sept 30, 2009 22:22:42 GMT
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Later seats have inbuild seat belts, but there is still the can of worms that is a van with extra seats.....
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will
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Sept 30, 2009 23:28:40 GMT
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Hmm...this needs more investimigation, i,ve a feeling that you need windows too, in case of accident it can be seen that someones in the back, would defo want this with my littlens riding back there on a regular. Don't know if re-registering as a camper affects things at all but it does offer cheaper insurance which is a bonus  Research, research |
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