MrSpeedy
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Jul 18, 2009 10:41:26 GMT
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The time has come for a change of daily, so the Merc is gonna go and i'm having strange thoughts about an XJ6/40 What are they like to live with on a daily basis (other than 20mpg !) Are they reliable ? Parts prices etc. Is it viable as a daily ride ? Have some pics in appreciation of your knowledge;
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Jul 18, 2009 10:45:51 GMT
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i cant really comment on what they're like to run as a daily as ive only ever driven a daimler sov (xj40 shape) for a few hundred yards. what i did find was for the size of the car the cabin felt cramped compared to my S class benz. great looking cars though.
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Jul 18, 2009 10:47:45 GMT
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richy
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Flatheads forever....
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Jul 18, 2009 13:28:32 GMT
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Gi for it! Our '96 XJ6 has covered 12,000 miles since November 2008 and has needed a headlight bulb and a service. Parts prices aren't bad - there are plenty of good aftermarket brands out there with OE quality, which you'll get from your local factors. There are plenty of good specialists out there too...
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Jul 18, 2009 17:50:25 GMT
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early "series" cars are cool and classic (1968-1986). However you need to watch for rot, especially up in the subframe areas which can be costly and/or tricky to repair and is MOT fail stuff. Also beware of problems with the twin fuel tanks, as either the tanks or the switching mechanism are expensive, I forget which. Excellent cars but HUGE trans tunnel and console make the footwells claustrophobic! 5/5 Akku points for coolness (esp the chrome bumper S1 and S2). Get a S2 in Heather Pink with matching interior. It WAS an option, and I've seen one! ACE.
XJ40 (1986 - 1995) are known as the "XJ-faulty". My dad had two of these from new. diffs, wheel bearings, shocks and electronics are all weak points on these cars. The prefacelift cars are worst. Later ones have most of the early faults fixed. Beware the 2.9 engine which is uneconomical and weak. They rot badly, mostly around the windows, the boot lid, rear arches and sills. Avoid the "tweed" interior - its uncomfortable and kills resale value. A late Sovereign 4.0 on LPG would be a great buy. As said the interior is not as spacious as Mercs or Lexus LS. The boot is tiny and a stupid shape. MartinC had one for sale which looked a good one.
the X300 series (1995 - 2003) is a much improved car IMO. Looks wise, build wise and all. From 1997 or so it becomes the X308 series which signifies the fitment of the V8 engine. The early ones of this suffer a Nickasil bore problem which causes accelerated bore wear leading to engine failure. Many were replaced under warranty with later type non-nickasil engines so look for proof of this as some are still out there on the original engine which could run for ever OK or could be a ticking time bomb. These cars are rock solid, same interior foot print as the XJ40 and the boot is still small.
X350 Series (2003-2009) all aluminium super saloon. I'm waiting to be able to afford a good used one when the Lexus needs replacing.
As said - INDEPENDANT SPECIALISTS not main dealer....
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Last Edit: Jul 18, 2009 17:50:57 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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MartinC
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Don't like stretched tyres, very low profile tyres & I think a car CAN be too low. Perhaps I'm odd.
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Jul 18, 2009 18:14:38 GMT
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1992-1994 XJ40's are superb cars. Early X300's seem to rot readily. The inline 6 is a cracking motor, with the later 3.2/4.0 the best versions. My last '94 XJ40 had zero rust despite high mileage. Parts are pretty easy to get off eBay!
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Marc
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Jul 18, 2009 20:08:58 GMT
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As has been said, get a late (92-94) XJ40 or an X300 and you won't go far wrong at all. The AJ6/16 engine is a fantastically strong lump, which can rack up mega mileage with ease. Interiors are plush and super comfy, rear leg room is cramped unless you pick up a LWB model. 3.2 not really worth it, just go for the 4 litre, just as economical in real world driving and a league above in performance terms. Don't believe rubbish about them being unreliable, by the mid '90s Jaguar had a better reliability index rating than BMW & Mercedes. I've had a late XJ40 (sadly written off now) and currently roll a '95 XJ6, both have been faultlessly reliable in a combined 30 odd thousand miles. My 4.0 X300 manages around 22mpg combined city (heavy North London traffic though!) & motorway driving. On a decent run I've seen 30mpg out of her! Thats with 160,000 on the clock and, erm, "economical" servicing! Main area of concern is the suspension, as obviously a Jag is all about the smooth ride, so the suspension in complicated and can cost a bomb to put right if bits are worn. If I were you, I'd seek out an X300 XJ6, go for as high a spec as possible. Prices are rock bottom at present, seen tidy examples on eBay sell for well short of a grand! I absolutely love them, just superb cars for the money.
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MWF
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Jul 18, 2009 20:33:22 GMT
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Friend of mind has just put his 1992 4.0 up for sale in Kingfisher blue. Nothing wrong with the car he just fancies a change. I think it's up for £850.
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MrSpeedy
East Midlands
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Jul 20, 2009 12:31:26 GMT
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Thanks chaps. Usefull stuff, and no real reason not to have one ! oh, curse word !
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