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May 15, 2009 14:27:34 GMT
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Just got a new set of tyres for the Metro, Well, the Bedford must have noticed and got Jealous because a small fragment of the ignition key has broken off in the barrel, just a tiny little bit of the teeth, about 4mm x 2mm. I have had new keys cut and they work fine in the doors but the fragment is stuck in the ignition barrel somewhere. Its a BL type affair, with a spring loaded ball at the opening. I have tried ragging a ground down bit of hacksaw blade in there but the lock bit down tight on it and I only just managed to get it out. Any ideas or am I going to have to get a new barrel and keys?
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1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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May 15, 2009 14:41:40 GMT
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What about putting a magnet on the top of the hacksaw blade, send it down the barrel and it should pull the offending bit of metal out. Perhaps have a mate holding the ball baring out of the way?
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Thankyou oh mighty lord.BenzBoy
@benzboy
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May 15, 2009 14:44:17 GMT
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This might be a ridiculous suggestion, but if the little piece is loose, but just hard to reach, how about bodging together some sort of hoover attachment to suck it out? You'd have to hold the lock open but... it might work?!
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May 15, 2009 14:55:29 GMT
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I don't have a small enough magnet and besides I don't think it would work as the whole assembly would become magnetised.
I have tried a hoover, didn't work, I might try again.
I think there is some kind of plate that comes down unless you push a key shaped object in there.
Hard to see.
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Last Edit: May 15, 2009 14:55:47 GMT by suterman
1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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May 15, 2009 15:04:44 GMT
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this might be even more ridiculous than benzboy's suggestion - but if it's really desperate measure's / nearly time for a new barrel - what about a dab of superglue on the bit of the key where the broken bit would touch? - jam it in quick past the barrel - leave for a few secs -then take it out?
having written that, it does seem quite stupid and or risky!
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May 15, 2009 15:09:03 GMT
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hmmm, worth a shot if I get desperate, only you should see the old key, (goes off to take photo)
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1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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May 15, 2009 15:16:52 GMT
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Hmmm, fragment was bigger than I remembered, time fora bit more "keyhole" surgery!! ba dum tish!
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Last Edit: May 15, 2009 15:21:08 GMT by suterman
1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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May 15, 2009 15:20:36 GMT
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humph, scratch that, its curse word down, very small rain but lots of it.
(opens another can of Stella)
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1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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May 15, 2009 15:24:11 GMT
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I stand by my "strong magnet on the top of the key" method. Worked a few times for similar problems with bike locks.
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Thankyou oh mighty lord.BenzBoy
@benzboy
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May 15, 2009 16:35:43 GMT
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this might be even more ridiculous than benzboy's suggestion - but if it's really desperate measure's / nearly time for a new barrel - what about a dab of superglue on the bit of the key where the broken bit would touch? - jam it in quick past the barrel - leave for a few secs -then take it out? having written that, it does seem quite stupid and or risky! ;D ;D How about a dob of grease instead of glue?
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mookie
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May 15, 2009 16:39:03 GMT
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Turn the car upside down and give it a shake til it falls out?
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May 15, 2009 17:26:17 GMT
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If you take the barrel out of the lock there is normally about 6 or 7 spring loaded pieces of metal, when the key is interted they retract allowing the barrel to rotate. if you remove the barrel and press all the 'pins' down the offending piece of key should fall out.
of course all the above are depedant on removal of ignition barrel from the steering column, normally by chiseling of the snap head bolts securing it on.
I had to do the above when the very same thing happened to my Mx5.
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May 15, 2009 17:30:13 GMT
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If you take the barrel out of the lock there is normally about 6 or 7 spring loaded pieces of metal, when the key is interted they retract allowing the barrel to rotate. if you remove the barrel and press all the 'pins' down the offending piece of key should fall out. of course all the above are depedant on removal of ignition barrel from the steering column, normally by chiseling of the snap head bolts securing it on. I had to do the above when the very same thing happened to my Mx5. Have just spent an hour or so on it, cut slots in the screws, took out the barrel, a few of the brass junk and springs fell out (meh) no sign of the old bit (I think it has just disintegrated) now the lock works and is all back together. Hooray Thanks chaps! ;D Thanks for the
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1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo
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