paul4be
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Need another daily hack shortly so that I can get the bits I need to do finished on the Capri ready for summer.
Anyone have any experience of Rover 75s with the 2.0 v6 in them? Good, bad, whatever???
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Graham
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i have 2 diesel ones the saloon was take off the road last year but the ZT-T is used every day and is a wicked motor you can get some good info from here: forums.mg-rover.org/
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The diesel in the 75 is a slightly de-tuned BMW 320d engine and there's quite a lot of BMW bits on early 75's. I think all the v6's (2.0 and 2.5) are quite reliable and smooth. The 2.0v6 was replaced by a 1.8 turbo in later days to bring the C02 down and mpg up. The normal and turbo 1.8's are the weak link in the engine line up thanks the K-series's well documented cooling system problems and love of blowing head gaskets. The 1.8's are terrifyingly cheap (£3000 for an 05 plate). Even the v6 ZT's are going for less than 2 grand.
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Marc
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I had an 01 plate diesel for around 18 months. Lovely car to drive, effortlessly comfortable and a great cruiser. Only downsides were slightly flakey build quality sadly. Little bits of trim working loose, niggly rattles etc. Saying that, I'd have another tomorrow.
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dude, not a Rover 75. daily retro FTW!
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llamaboy
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I was insured on my fathers Y reg 75 2.5 v6 business mobile. Was an awsome car IMHO. Get the Connoisseur SE if you can. All the extras, electric everything and full leather. Thats the one he had, he choce the 7 speaker stereo system over the sat-nav tho. Used to stop on a dime, and then found out thatit had a brake problem after driving Halfords customers one and nearly firing myself out the windscreen! Apparently thats a trouble spot to look out for on the early models.
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1992 Rover 214i (scrapped)
1995 Rover 214Si (sold)
1975 Rover P6 3500 (scrapped)
1984 Vauxhall Chevette (bangered)
1971 Rover P5b Coupe (sold)
1995 BMW 318i (sold)
2001 Peugeot 206 (sold)
2000 Rover 25 (gave back to father in-law)
1989 Lancia Prisma (swapped)
1985 Volvo 340 (sold)
1997 Daewoo Nexia (hmmm...)
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They seem like good cars, My wife's uncle brought one for a bargain price last year of his neighbor for the same price a garage had offered him against a Part-x,
It's a 55-Reg 2.0 CDTi with 40k and he paid £2700 for it!! Bargain!
He's not had any problems yet and uses it to tow his shed behind and reckons it's great.
Nearly brought a MGZt Diesel once, Nice bars.
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they rock well, to sit in a waft anyway, actual ownership i don't know but as a plush courtesy car it ticked all the boxes. buy a light colour too
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ChasR
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Rover 75 as a daily??ChasR
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A mate's mum had about 4 from new for about 3-4 years a time. They didn't really give any trouble at all. They had a 1.8, a 1.8T, then a ZT-T 160 (V6) and a ZT 190.
The early 190s had a problem of eating cams due to them being too soft, but besides that they didn't have any real issues.
HGs do go in them I admit (He bought a Rover 218VVC with a HG gone, and it turned out to be a cracked piston). It went in his previous Rover 216, and in a mate's 214. His 216 worked for well over a year (and it still does) after the HG change.
The key thing to do is to look for one fitted with the Land Rover HG kit which has a good gasket and metal dowels. Apparently Payen kits are also a safe bet. Furthermore, using decent antifreeze (IMO, there is no excuse now, when you consider that 5 year (red stuff) works out to about £1 more over 5 litres (with Rover's small capacity it won't even be that), and to keep on top of coolant changes. Note how Elises don't seem to suffer as much (I'm not saying they're invulnerable, but it certainly gives you an idea of how different owners treat them (urrgh, it's a Rover...)).
That last point brings me to my final point. The decent HGs cost more than the cheaper ones, and well, considering how much Rovers are worth you can see where I am going with this...
I've had one mate of mine saying how his HGs kept on blowing on all of his Rovers, yet the ones my other mate did (mentioned in this post earlier) have not missed a beat due to simply following simple instructions. Make of that what you will.
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Last Edit: Apr 6, 2009 2:07:27 GMT by ChasR
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I would say definitely go for it. Beautiful cars to sit in and waft along in, and surprisingly good handling, although obviously not a 3 series or a Mondeo. The KV6 is a good engine and the flaws in the ones used in the 800s were all worked out by then - but I found the 2.0 V6 didn't really seem offer any economy advantage over the 2.5. However I did have an auto though and used it in a hilly district - I suspect with the right driving style and a manual there is a difference!. Cowley built ones the best, early Longbridge ones also very good build, try and get one made before 'Project Drive' (major MGR cost-cutting exercise) really kicked in about mid 2002. Personally I would avoid the 1800 due to the fact it is a heavy car and they are rather underpowered. Also the head gasket issue, which I won't get into because there is so much myth mixed with fact - I do know the Land Rover designed replacement gasket is the one to go for if you have to do the job. I have not about much HGF on KV6s as used in the 75/ZT. Diesels offer the best balance of running costs & performance, which is why they are worth more than the others! www.mg-rover.org is the place to get info - there will be a 75/ZT sub forum.
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Last Edit: Apr 6, 2009 11:07:23 GMT by anthonyg
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I think the 2.0 suffers more HGF than the 2.5 - the KV6 still suffers, though thankfully not as often as the four-pot. The cambelt change is a bit fraught as well - a big job.
The diesel's the one to go for really - or, as others have said, go for something older and a lot more simple!
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The Rover 75 with the diesel engine is a very nice drive, and depending how you drive is not bad on fuel. I have one and am reasonably happy with it, I'm used to Land Rovers that's why. They are very low and you will notice you tend to be travelling faster than you think unless fitted with C/C..
Andy.
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stealthstylz
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Rover 75 as a daily??stealthstylz
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I'm just in the midst of finding a nice cheap one. Still can't decide between a diesel and a 2.0 V6 converted to LPG.
Matt
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Erm, retro FTW. The only Rover 75 of interest...
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Rich G
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Have a 52reg (but DoR 2003) 25 2.0 Turbodiesel as a daily. Assuming that it's the same diesel as the 75 uses.
Mine has a Honda engine, have been told they switched to BMW diesels not long after mine was made.
My work commute is 100 miles a day, about a 50/50 mix of M-way and A-road through a couple of small towns so pretty much limited to a max of 50mph once off the M5. Averaging just over 50mpg since I bought it last May. Obviously the 25 is smaller and lighter than the 75 but would have thought the diesel 75 should return around the 45mpg mark.
Being a Rover and most people thinking they're an old fart's car (probably right in my case ;D) they're quite cheap to insure too.
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paul4be
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'86 Capri Laser, Frontera 4x4
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Cheers guys!!
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Mark
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Apr 10, 2009 22:46:53 GMT
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The 2.0 V6 is a sweet engine. My pops had one from new with no problems.
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Apr 10, 2009 23:11:48 GMT
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Have a 52reg (but DoR 2003) 25 2.0 Turbodiesel as a daily. Assuming that it's the same diesel as the 75 uses. Mine has a Honda engine, have been told they switched to BMW diesels not long after mine was made. All the bubble 200, 400, 25, 45, ZR and ZS diesels are Rover L-series turbo engines. They are a good unit and nothing whatsoever to do with Honda or BMW. The first Civic diesels did use the Rover engine until Honda's own diesels were developed. Its a common misconception that any Rover that hasn't failed must have a Honda engine, but I can assure you its a pure Rover engine you have. All 75 diesels were, as said earlier, 2.0 BMW engines.
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Apr 11, 2009 22:03:40 GMT
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From what I've heard there nice motors. The 2.0L diesel engine IS a BMW unit. Common problem is the they have fuel pump problems, cant remember if they had 2 or 3. Can be pricey to put right.
The 2.5 V6 suffers from VIS valve problems, they rattle alot when there playing up and your down on power slightly. Also, if you do go for the V6, make sure the cambelt has been done if its over 6 years old/done more than 60,000 miles. If not, budget £300 - £500 pound to have it done.
As for the 1.8 and 1.8T there fine, so long as there looked after. If the HG did go, the new uprated Land Rover gasket and oil rail or the Payen gasket should see the problems go, so long as the liner heights are ok and the head is not warped beyond repair.
Hope this helps!
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Apr 12, 2009 22:01:31 GMT
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Won't necessarily see the 'problem' go totally - it'll be unlikely to go wrong again due to the design issues, but the cooling system is quite highly stressed so if other things go tits up like the thermostat or the temp sensor for the fan dies, it can wreck it quite quickly. Massively overhyped issue, though yeah.
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