Stu_B
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Investing in rust!
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Sept 17, 2008 7:43:01 GMT
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I personally prefer RWD, because its the obvious choice of the heterosexual man.... Have to agree with this sentiment! Nothing wrong with FWD from a technical side, but there's something very feminine about having everything up the front. Can't quite put my finger on why this is, RWDs are just more masculine! Front engine, rear wheel drive FTW ;D FWD cars are fun (all cars are fun) but as said before RWD is another level of fun! Another way of looking at it is - you would't pop down to the shops or run around the block on your arms would you?!
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Last Edit: Sept 17, 2008 7:44:35 GMT by Stu_B
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Sept 17, 2008 8:27:44 GMT
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I'm going to build a rear engined, front wheel drive car and it will make EVERYTHING ELSE seem brilliant, so brilliant in fact, that we won't care about which is best.
I've never even driven a RWD car, and I feel like I'm really missing out on something.
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Sept 17, 2008 8:56:47 GMT
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FWD cars can be GR8 4 DRFTN etc. I have to say it is nice to have uncorrupted steering, but that's the only major advantage to RWD I reckon.
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kee
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Sept 17, 2008 9:30:49 GMT
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life is not all about drifting ya know, besides, you shoulddn't be driving like that on public roads
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topi
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It's a race car officer, I swear!
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Sept 17, 2008 10:38:16 GMT
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Balls to that. If a hetrosexual male told me that he didn't feel amazing after hanging the back end out of a country lane hairpin - I would assume him a lier. It's a natural thing, like doing a burnout haha.
And away from driving, eveng working on a RWD car is SO much better. The engine bay is neat and easily accessable, underneath is also neat etc. Much better.
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tenman
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Sept 17, 2008 10:52:36 GMT
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FWD is just wrong... I hate driving front wheel drive cars, they make me feel seesick and they just feel unbalanced somehow... it also just seems wrong to have a set of wheels that aren't doing anything all apart from supporting the car.
Front wheels steering Rear wheels power
just seems nice and balanced and correct somehow
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RWD Fanatic...
2003 BMW 320d Wagon (getting old and boring) 1996 Mini Kensington (SWMBO's)
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Sept 17, 2008 11:47:36 GMT
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I try to stick with rear drive but am not the type of person to completely dismiss front drive. Just because a car is rear drive it doesn't make it automatically good (try driving a Volvo 740 for example) and just because a car is front drive doesn't make it bad (loved my old AX GT). Having said that, I'd rather stay with rwd as I prefer the feel and balance, if that makes sense.
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Sept 17, 2008 11:56:20 GMT
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Front wheels steering Rear wheels power just seems nice and balanced and correct somehow Erm : 1982 Alfasud Ti(x?) ?? There is little in the world more fun than booting a boxer engined FWD Alfa from a stand still and it going sideways up the road... ridiculous Torque steer FTW Currently I drive a RWD car, but would happily have FWD again.
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Sept 17, 2008 12:14:41 GMT
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Front wheels steering Rear wheels power just seems nice and balanced and correct somehow Erm : 1982 Alfasud Ti(x?) ?? There is little in the world more fun than booting a boxer engined FWD Alfa from a stand still and it going sideways up the road... ridiculous Torque steer FTW Currently I drive a RWD car, but would happily have FWD again. see thats exactly what i hate about fwd, the general randomness of them when trying to get away from a standstill. Big smokey burnouts are always fun but in a fwd car you know every single one of em can get the drivewheels spinning without the car moving, while a rwd needs to have at least a modicum of power to achieve rubber rotation, just takes the fun out of it in a fwd and don't feel special, just embarresing. PS i have owned 2 mini's, 2 alfasuds, and a lancia delta amongst my other cars and i still didnt like em much, its only my personal opinion, but i'd rather have a dodgy handling rwd than a sporty fwd, might not be as fast but much more fun and they make me happier, I'm pretty sure my cortina would get driven rings around by a golf gti but i'll still be grinning more going round roundabouts.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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miaspa
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Sept 17, 2008 12:23:49 GMT
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You can get a decent FWD sideways on a roundabout, lift off oversteer ;D.
As an afterthought watching a BMW 850 go backwards into a Family of five on there way back from ther hols in their Escort killing the father makes me think any antics are best off kept to the track.
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Found my flashing Pao again.
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Sept 17, 2008 12:24:32 GMT
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I can tell the bulk of this forum's populace doesn't deal with snow and icy driving on a *regular* basis. Nor have most folks ever checked out the winners of the Grassroots $1000, $1500, or $2000 competitions, which are often won by FWD in the performance areas of drag and slolam. Including a FWD turbo Dodge 4cyl minivan and various GLH Turbo Omnis.
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Sept 17, 2008 12:39:30 GMT
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I don't own a fwd car (how masculine does that make me??!) But I do enjoy driving some of them & it places they can be WAY better than rwd-road rallying springs to mind as that's what I know more about-rwd is great fun, but fwd is quicker (imo) & can be as much fun. Anyway, who cares, just drive what you've got & enjoy it.
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Zapp Brannigan
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She's built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro!
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Sept 17, 2008 13:07:33 GMT
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As an afterthought watching a BMW 850 go backwards into a Family of five on there way back from ther hols in their Escort killing the father makes me think any antics are best off kept to the track. That's the most sensible thing I've heard all day. I have to agree that stupid antics are best kept to the track (when you have kids, your priorities change!). I've always found FWD overstear to be very difficult to control and all to often you get no warning that it's gonna happen (or maybe that's just my bad FWD driving technique!!)
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Sept 17, 2008 13:13:01 GMT
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I can tell the bulk of this forum's populace doesn't deal with snow and icy driving on a *regular* basis. Nor have most folks ever checked out the winners of the Grassroots $1000, $1500, or $2000 competitions, which are often won by FWD in the performance areas of drag and slolam. Including a FWD turbo Dodge 4cyl minivan and various GLH Turbo Omnis. cant see your point here, i've never had an easier time in slippy conditions in a fwd? possibly slightly easier to control but get stuck far quicker in my experiance, off roaders are pretty much all 4x4 or rwd so why is that? and budget limited grass roots racing is gonna favour fwd over rwd simply cos of the much larger selection of small fwd cars available these days and the daft "driftorz" paying stupid money for rwd cars and driving the prices up and out of budget. fwd cars can be fast and hadle well, but almost always they come unstuck against rwd cars in race series where the rwd isn't handicapped out of the running. fwd lift off oversteer isnt fun and you cant stay sideways, besides if I want lift off over steer I can do that in my rwd just as well, in fact its pretty much the easiest way to start a slide before you nail the throttle to keep it going. horses for courses and its all down to opinions, but you only ever see the fwd boys saying its better, never the lads that drive both fwd AND rwd on a regular basis.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Sept 17, 2008 13:54:51 GMT
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but you only ever see the fwd boys saying its better, never the lads that drive both fwd AND rwd on a regular basis. C'mon, Poppy. "Only ever"? You know I own a 69 Pontiac GTO Judge, a 65 GTO tripower, 4 RS2600 Capri (including a werkes Grp 2 car), have driven a factory-entered Nissan Z-car in endurance racing, driven a Pug 505 Turbo in endurance racing for 2 years, won more roadracing victories in a euro Capri than any other driver in US racing history (not bragging - because no one cares anyway-, just my bonafides being stated), drive a Bronco, and own about 15 other Capris. BUT, I also drove a VW GTI and a Nissan NX to endurance class victories, and I also own 2 GLH Omnis, including a rare Shelby-manufactured GLH-S. I've flogged all of them to within an inch of the Armco (and past that on occasion, ;D). Don't pigeon-hole me, baby. I am completely unbiased on this subject. FWD has its place in motorsport and is superior in ice and snow (simple physics of weight over the drivegear), which is EXACTLY why conventional 4WD/AWD add in the front pair, mate.
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Sept 17, 2008 13:55:24 GMT
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Weight over the driven wheels is good for traction in slippy conditions, hence the dominance of rear-engined and FWD cars in rallying in the pre-4wd days.
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tenman
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m00000000000
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Sept 17, 2008 13:58:58 GMT
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Front wheels steering Rear wheels power just seems nice and balanced and correct somehow Erm : 1982 Alfasud Ti(x?) ?? There is little in the world more fun than booting a boxer engined FWD Alfa from a stand still and it going sideways up the road... ridiculous Torque steer FTW Currently I drive a RWD car, but would happily have FWD again. heh, yeah, I bought it to learn fabricating on a couple of years ago as it was dead cheap, local and a little bit interesting... only actually driven it once and I far prefer my Skoda Rapid...
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RWD Fanatic...
2003 BMW 320d Wagon (getting old and boring) 1996 Mini Kensington (SWMBO's)
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tenman
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m00000000000
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Sept 17, 2008 14:00:30 GMT
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and I found the best car I've ever owned for driving in the snow and mud and not getting stuck was my old BM318I... after I'd welded up the diff...
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RWD Fanatic...
2003 BMW 320d Wagon (getting old and boring) 1996 Mini Kensington (SWMBO's)
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Sept 17, 2008 14:04:45 GMT
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but you only ever see the fwd boys saying its better, never the lads that drive both fwd AND rwd on a regular basis. C'mon, Poppy. "Only ever"? You know I own a 69 Pontiac GTO Judge, a 65 GTO tripower, 4 RS2600 Capri (including a werkes Grp 2 car), have driven a factory-entered Nissan Z-car in endurance racing, driven a Pug 505 Turbo in endurance racing for 2 years, won more roadracing victories in a euro Capri than any other driver in US racing history (not bragging - because no one cares anyway-, just my bonafides being stated), drive a Bronco, and own about 15 other Capris. BUT, I also drove a VW GTI and a Nissan NX to endurance class victories, and I also own 2 GLH Omnis, including a rare Shelby-manufactured GLH-S. I've flogged all of them to within an inch of the Armco (and past that on occasion, ;D). Don't pigeon-hole me, baby. I am completely unbiased on this subject. FWD has its place in motorsport and is superior in ice and snow (simple physics of weight over the drivegear), which is EXACTLY why conventional 4WD/AWD add in the front pair, mate. cant agree with you about the ice and snow, any vehicle ive ever seen specifically designed to deal with those conditions has been powered from the rear or both ends, I'm happy to be shown a dedicated fwd snow-mobile, snow plow, gritter lorry or snow blower though, you don't see many fwd sand rails or beach buggies either. You say yourself your unbiased about fwd's in motorsport, I'm not pigeon holeing you, i was talking about the guys who will tell you fwd is quicker than rwd, you fall into the "guys who drive both" bit of that sentance. Weight over the driven wheels is good for traction in slippy conditions, hence the dominance of rear-engined and FWD cars in rallying in the pre-4wd days. its not dominance if your racing in your own class. besides i think you may be missinformed, there were victories but nowhere near the amount that front engine rwd cars had.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Front wheel drive dilemaRobinxr4i
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Sept 17, 2008 14:09:41 GMT
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Buy what you like and stop moaning!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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