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May 17, 2008 19:42:26 GMT
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored
Rover 75 - Barge
MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer...
MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored
Project Minion........
Can you see the theme?
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May 17, 2008 19:53:10 GMT
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Oooo, clever!
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May 17, 2008 20:13:13 GMT
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thats very clever, and its left me a bit confused in the head.
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That is really surprising, reading through the Marina forum it appears that the Zetec head was a very good fit. I wonder how he realised that it would be?
Other details that are just plain odd (well in my eyes anyway) the fact that it has SU carbs, yet just before the air filter the intake still appears to be fitted with a modern Mass Airflow unit, makes me wonder if the carbs have been gutted and turned into throttle bodies?
I'm no fan of Marinas but that is a very cool project.
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May 18, 2008 10:19:51 GMT
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Totaly unbelievable!!!! Awesome.
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Davenger
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May 18, 2008 10:23:37 GMT
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I love this kind of modding.
Like the guy who put a BMW KR1100 head on an A series, brilliant
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May 18, 2008 19:31:55 GMT
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OUTSTANDING!! that does appear to use su's as throttle bodies. think the plenum is a fair bit undersized, but damn clever on the head fitment . how do these people find these things out? instead of cards they memorize head gasket dimension? beats nintendo's brain training any day  who would have thought a zetec head will, with a bit of fidling go on a b series block? or that a 16v bmw bike head fits an a-series? or that a volvo 16v head will almost go on a 2.3 ford lima engine, or the guy that has the honda bike head on a 1300 polo in berg cup? walking parts interchange manuals ;D |
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Seth
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May 18, 2008 20:07:13 GMT
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Wow!
I wonder what kind of ignition he's running or if the dizzy is still down there hidden under the "carbs"! That engine and gearbox/garage photo shows it fitted with the SU's and a standard Marina TC air filter arrangement.
However he's done that I'm sure it would have been cheaper than an HRG type x-flow B series head!
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May 18, 2008 20:09:14 GMT
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Ingenious! Love this sort of modifying. I'm with you B&D, always leaves me wondering how they find these things out! |
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May 18, 2008 22:03:45 GMT
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Great stuff.
Wouldn't it be a case of matching the bore centres and the bore (slightly less critical) then just sorting the water/oil galleries? Not easy by any stretch of the term but still quite 'straightforward'
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May 18, 2008 22:08:46 GMT
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Ingenious! Love this sort of modifying. I'm with you B&D, always leaves me wondering how they find these things out! Its mostly trial and error, although having a good eye for dimentions and a stack of old parts to try things out on helps. For headswaps, comparing head gaskets is a good guide to what is possible  One thing puzzles me tho. thats a ford t9 gearbox mated to the marina bellhousing. If he wanted the ford box, why didnt he just bolt the whole zetec to it? |
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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May 18, 2008 22:13:24 GMT
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There's only one oil feed to the head on the B series and I guess you could make that external. So you'd just need to make sure the top end oil had a route to flow back to the sump through the disused pushrod openings. Biggest issue I imagine is head stud quantity and positions. Really not that easy to move that kind of thing! I wonder if any alterations had to be made to waterways and if so what effect it would have on flow around differently designed head and block  |
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That really is top modding - nice to see someone coming up with another alternative for the b series. Excellent outcome and awaiting details, as are almost all B series owners I presume! ;D The guy is a genius - hats off  |
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Wouldn't a Rover M/T-series head be a better fit? The block they sit on is a derivative of the B-series one.
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Wouldn't a Rover M/T-series head be a better fit? The block they sit on is a derivative of the B-series one. I thought it was an O-series derivative....Or is that in itself a B-series derivative? *n |
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Wouldn't a Rover M/T-series head be a better fit? The block they sit on is a derivative of the B-series one. I thought it was an O-series derivative.... Or is that in itself a B-series derivative?*n Yep! |
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I love mods like that, quite pointless but worth doing just to show they can be done. My mate Ben (polodragin on here) has a tunnel ram off a Ford 302 Windsor which was fitted with Cleveland heads, called a Clevor. Apparantley it was a well known mod in the 70s/80s before aftermarket heads too off, as the Cleveland heads have huge ports. Sadly nobody does it any more as aftermarket heads are cheaper, don't require as much work and flow loads better. Edit - Just found a link www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/30220_clevor_engine/index.htmlwww.darkhorseracing.net/clevor_head_mod.htmMatt |
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May 19, 2008 10:43:35 GMT
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Thats very cool!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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May 19, 2008 12:24:37 GMT
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nice engineering, cant see the point though, easier to chuck the whole zetec in.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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who would have thought a zetec head will, with a bit of fidling go on a b series block? or that a 16v bmw bike head fits an a-series? or that a volvo 16v head will almost go on a 2.3 ford lima engine, or the guy that has the honda bike head on a 1300 polo in berg cup? 
