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Apr 12, 2008 19:29:15 GMT
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What with all the track days etc going on now it's difficult to see past the hype and the mass adoption of Toyo R888's as the holy grail of track tyres.
I'm going to be slapping a set of tyres on the ZS next week and I'd like more than this to go on. The only other brand that seems to get a look in besides the all conquering Toyo's are Advan's.
Any thoughts comments before I shed my load over a set?
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Apr 12, 2008 19:32:57 GMT
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Slicks and wets  Find some cheapy steels and for £10 a tyre you can have 160/530 13 michelin slicks with minimal use. |
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Apr 12, 2008 19:36:02 GMT
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Now that's an idea. Would need to find another set of 6" Amils as the wheel choice for the ZS is limited to say the least but a great idea.
Ideal wheel size for the ZS is 185/60 13 which is quite common for track use I think.
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Apr 12, 2008 19:40:31 GMT
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Stacks of 185-60-13 tyres around, you'd be had pushed to get a wheel that size though  |
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Apr 12, 2008 20:05:51 GMT
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Stacks of 185-60-13 tyres around, you'd be had pushed to get a wheel that size though I know. It's the pcd that doesn't help. The ZS is three studs (3x110) but different from the Saxo/AX/205 three stud pattern, AND the renault 3 stud pattern so choice is er limited. Sets of Amils are available in france but shipping is costly. Hence the original plan of road legal track tyres and the original question. |
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Apr 12, 2008 20:41:32 GMT
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Road legal track tyres are really pointless. They're good as long as its sunny and warm, but when it rains they're dangerous.
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Apr 12, 2008 21:28:07 GMT
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Road legal track tyres are really pointless. They're good as long as its sunny and warm, but when it rains they're dangerous. Matt it don't really matter what tires are on my van in the wet their not going to grip anyway so i'll be sticking to track type tires at least they do grip in the dry ;D |
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Road legal track tyres are really pointless. They're good as long as its sunny and warm, but when it rains they're dangerous. Matt Nope - you just have to drive slower and expect less grip |
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I seem to recall reading a Renault 5 Turbo group test in Retro Cars, PPC or similar a few years back where a few of them ran F3(?) wets and slicks at track days - £10 a corner and they lasted fine.
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Road legal track tyres are really pointless. They're good as long as its sunny and warm, but when it rains they're dangerous. Matt Nope - you just have to drive slower and expect less grip Whats the point though it rains over here so much i'd rather have a proper tyre that works all the time. A few of the old Clio club were on R888s when I was on goodyear eagle f1s. In the dry there wasn't enough difference to make my car slower round corners, but in the wet they all had to drive like grannys for fear of needing to do an emergency stop (which they couldn't as the ABS kicked in and didn't apply the brakes at all). Matt |
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Apr 13, 2008 12:08:40 GMT
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i used colway intermediates on 1 of my rover v8 vivas a couple of yrs back, 185-60-13s were around £35 a peice and i was most impressed, worth checking out there web site
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Apr 13, 2008 19:53:31 GMT
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Nope - you just have to drive slower and expect less grip Whats the point though it rains over here so much i'd rather have a proper tyre that works all the time. A few of the old Clio club were on R888s when I was on goodyear eagle f1s. In the dry there wasn't enough difference to make my car slower round corners, but in the wet they all had to drive like grannys for fear of needing to do an emergency stop (which they couldn't as the ABS kicked in and didn't apply the brakes at all). Matt Up until you get standing water, and if you can get & Keep heat in them, there is nothing wrong with Trackday tyres.... Most people back off with them when it rains, temp goes down, grip reduces because of reduced temp..... It slides, they back off more and so the game continiues You have to work them..... if you push into a corner and they slide you have to push harder next corner - it works the tyre and gets heat into it, if you back off you will never get them warm enough....... If you had seen the conditions today and the totally shot (As in through to the canvas shot)  trackday tyres that people were hammering round on you would change your mind...... ;D |
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Apr 13, 2008 21:11:10 GMT
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we sell loads of R888, they are an excellent track tyre, but they don't last long. one of our customers tracks his 350brake cossie regular, set of rims that just see track use, and they wont see 2 track days out!
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Apr 13, 2008 21:14:53 GMT
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Slicks and wets Find some cheapy steels and for £10 a tyre you can have 160/530 13 michelin slicks with minimal use. Do you know if 15" slicks are as easy to get a hold of?? Had a quick look on the bay without much luck  |
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If you had seen the conditions today and the totally shot (As in through to the canvas shot) trackday tyres that people were hammering round on you would change your mind...... ;D Mine weren't that bad ;D Anticlockwise track Drivers side front  Drivers side rear  Passenger side front  Passeger side rear  At one stage today the track had a heck of a lot of standing water - sure the car was twitchy but I was lapping at similar speeds as in the dry and just had to be a little gentler on the gas out of the corners |
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If you had seen the conditions today and the totally shot (As in through to the canvas shot) trackday tyres that people were hammering round on you would change your mind...... ;D Mine weren't that bad ;D I was More referring to Jase`s 205 that had done the full set down to slick and ripped all the edges out down to the wires ;D Or Mitch`s Cappucino which started the day (They were there from Friday night "Helping to set up") with its "Firestone fuelsavers" down to the canvas already and down to the wires by the end of the day ;D  Surprising amount of grip even in the wet with no tread left.... as they are small enough to keep the heat in 165/60/14 fuelsavers FTW ;D ;D |
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Find some cheapy steels and for £10 a tyre you can have 160/530 13 michelin slicks with minimal use.
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trackday tyres that people were hammering round on you would change your mind...... 
