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I won't be there when you cross the road, so always use the Green Cross Code.
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Feb 22, 2008 20:39:31 GMT
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So, Saturday before last around 11.00am. I'd just finished fixing a clients Mac and was running a wee bit late to collect No.2 daughter from gym, which always means a telling off from Mrs S too! So a bit cross, a bit stresses and a bit late, fairly empty dual carriage way. I expect you can tell what's coming. Suddenly, there it is the dreaded white van in the lay by. All around me sling on the anchors me included. Glancing down at the speedo I was horrified to see that I must have been doing just over the magic ton as I approached the van. It's easy to do I guess. especially when you're stressed. I don't really speed as a rule and I have 23 years of totally clean license, but i guess 100+ is looking at a big fine and lotsa points. So I've been waiting for the letter to hit the mat, and tomorrow is 14 days from the offence so I guess if no letter tomorrow they must have been on a tea break or something. Keep em crossed. I imagine you'll hear the scream if I get hit on the last permissible day!  |
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Feb 22, 2008 21:24:07 GMT
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100+ is a ban isn't it? :/
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Feb 22, 2008 21:27:45 GMT
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Hope nothing comes of it, you're clearly not a nutter that deserves a ban. It's all too easy for the speed to creep up, depends on the car. What were you driving?
;)I don't have to worry about being caught doing over a ton with most of my cars! ;D
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Feb 22, 2008 21:28:17 GMT
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Eeek! Horrible feeling isn't it?!
I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but I believe that there is no longer a 14 day limit on them issuing the fine. Don't quote me on that though, I might well be wrong (hope so).
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Feb 22, 2008 21:30:44 GMT
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100+ is a ban isn't it? :/ *n unless you are a shockingly over paid profesionally trained drama queen footballer.  |
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Feb 22, 2008 21:35:02 GMT
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I was coming up the A1 in a recovery truck yeaterday (with a v8 cortina on the back) when suddenly everyone that was passing me panic braked and there was almost a nasty incident. Parked up in a layby 1/2 mile up the road, I passed a transporter, carrying 5 brand new (and marked up) police camera vans. I think it was just a tea break though |
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Jem45
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Feb 22, 2008 21:57:30 GMT
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100+ is a ban isn't it? :/ *n unless you are a shockingly over paid profesionally trained drama queen footballer. ...or a police man |
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Feb 22, 2008 22:02:26 GMT
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chances are its a tax van maybe? was it marked with hi-vis stripes?
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Feb 22, 2008 22:09:17 GMT
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Is it only 2 weeks? I don't mean to pee on your chips but I am sure the sweat only stops after 2 months.
I have had the dreaded letter up to a month after the offence, and I should bloody know. I have had at least 10 points on my license since passing 14 years ago!
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Feb 22, 2008 22:14:50 GMT
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Its happens easily, especially in big modern cars. Dads volvo gains speed at a scary rate without any real sense of acceleration, Polo is the complete opposite.
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bryn
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Feb 22, 2008 22:17:59 GMT
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Unfortunate, but 100+ is not an instant ban... It's actually applicable from 90mph up. Last time I checked, it goes like this, 0-20 over the speed limit, band a fine and a maximum of six points. 20-40 over the speed limit, band b fine and a maximum ban of 56days, 40 + over the speed limit and they'll rape you...  I've done some 'research' over the years into the subject, so for example say you were doing 115mph on a stretch of motorway and it was a first offence, then they might ban you for 28days and fine you a weeks wages. Then if you were caught a couple of years later doing 99mph on a dual carraigeway, they may well ban you for 56days and fine you a weeks wages... Then if you were to get caught travelling at 92mph on the motorway, you may well get five points and another weeks wages docked * ** The fines are worked out by a means testing form, and the rest is pretty much up to the magistrates. They have recommendations, but it can be down to how well their Cornflakes went down that morning  *All of this is purely informed speculation and not based on actual events in my life. Ahem. ** If you're banned for 56days or more your license is revoked, meaning you have to reapply for it, a simple form filling procedure that lightens you of another £35. But imagine if the prosecuting court don't tell you this and send your license back to you through the post, so you do your time then start driving again. You then get stopped for speeding a couple of years later, and the upshot of all this is that you've been driving on a revoked license for two years. Oh how I laughed... |
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Feb 22, 2008 22:22:08 GMT
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Personally, I think it is wrong to blame the car. An observant driver will always know as much about the speed and conditions as they can.
I am observant, I just chose to drive like a getaway driver! ;D
I was driving along the A74 southbound on Tuesday (the few miles between the M6 and M74) and the fuquers were on the bridge with the hairdrier of doom and like Scaryold mentioned everyone jumped on the brakes increasing the chances of us all having a crash. Synchronised swimming with complete strangers.
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Feb 22, 2008 22:23:54 GMT
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It is all too easy to speed, especially in moderns. I was getting my toe down a little the other day in a modern... as ever, I get to the end of the day and worry about whether I'd gone through a speed trap.  I don't tend to speed, but everyone does occasionally. Bryn - looks like you've had a fair bit of experience of "spirited driving" and the law! |
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Feb 22, 2008 22:30:03 GMT
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Not sure if it is still the case but there used to be a loophole (in Scotland anyway) if you were snapped using a static Gatso type camera.
The procedure was...
1.Ignore the fine and fill in the form pleading not guilty.
2.Attend court at every invitation.
3. The procurator will ask you 'Is XXXXX, registration number XXXXXXX your car?'
4.If it is you reply yes. They will then ask 'Were you driving it at xx o'clock on xxx 200x?'
5. You simply reply 'I cannot answer this question on the grounds it will incriminate me.'
6. At this point the Judge has no option but to declare the outcome 'Not proven'
Which means the charges are dropped.
I got away with this method a few years ago but since then I have been caught on the later cameras that snap your car from the front or by big brightly coloured police cars hiding at the side of the road!
So I don't know if it still works.
It wont work anywhere else in the UK because only Scotland has the option of the 'Not proven' verdict.
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bryn
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Feb 22, 2008 22:37:03 GMT
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I believe the Scottish loop hole has been closed... There are a number of websites for this sort of thing. And BB, I use a stuntman for all potentially incriminating acts. He's called Steve Maverick, unless he's in a bad mood... then you can call him Clint Nasty  |
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Feb 22, 2008 23:12:06 GMT
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But imagine if the prosecuting court don't tell you this and send your license back to you through the post, so you do your time then start driving again. You then get stopped for speeding a couple of years later, and the upshot of all this is that you've been driving on a revoked license for two years. Oh how I laughed... That is pretty much the exact same thing that happened to me a few years back. Got the letter from the dvla, stuck it in the drawer and thought nothing of it for a few years till i got a seven day wonder, then had to stop driving for six months untill it all went to court only for the magistrate to pretty much throw it out and just tell me to reapply for my liescence. |
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bryn
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But imagine if the prosecuting court don't tell you this and send your license back to you through the post, so you do your time then start driving again. You then get stopped for speeding a couple of years later, and the upshot of all this is that you've been driving on a revoked license for two years. Oh how I laughed... That is pretty much the exact same thing that happened to me a few years back. Got the letter from the dvla, stuck it in the drawer and thought nothing of it for a few years till I got a seven day wonder, then had to stop driving for six months untill it all went to court only for the magistrate to pretty much throw it out and just tell me to reapply for my liescence. You weren't caught in Somerset were you? ;D It's a helpless feeling being stood in front a magistrate trying to explain why you have a revoked license in your hand. I guess that's my frustration with the British judicial system summed up... Good luck Shortcut if it comes to it. |
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Mike D
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I have found, that, on a wide array of differing vehicles, the actual speedo readout differs from a GPS speed read out by around 10% On a local disused airfield i had to do an indicated 111mph to hit 100 on the GPS... I don't know what the radar guns are calibrated to though. So, you could have been going slower than you first thought. I too have heard there is no hard and fast rule as to when the dreaded summons can hit you however  |
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Shortcut
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I won't be there when you cross the road, so always use the Green Cross Code.
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oh great. So I have to wait and wait and wait...
Bum! A ban would be a catastrophe as I need my car to get out to clients. No car = no business = no home.
A friend of mine spends his whole life speeding. He's gone over 12 points several times and always managed to wriggle out of it with a fine. Once even beeing caught doing 70 in a 30 zone a week after pleading for his license in court and STILL only gets another fine. Me, I fully expect to go from zero to ban in one step, as that's how my life goes.
My new one hope that it was not actually a camera van. But it sure looked the part. White LDV in a lay by two blacked out windows in the rear door. Special not police but |traffic officer" 4x4 parked in front.
So. Tea Break or not cam van. or ban!
More waiting...
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Lopez
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There is no such thing as an "instant ban" That sort of speed is likely to see you put in front of the magistrates where you will be given the chance to expalin yourself. When I appeared in court for 104 (IIRC) mph, I was told that the magistrates "Often consider a period of disqualification for speeds in excess of 100mph" I dressed smartly, and apologised sincerely, and asked that they consider where I lived (rural area with no public transport and a job 20 miles away with late/early shift patterns) I also took a letter from my manager explaining that I am required to work antisocial hours which I would be unable to do without a car. I got 6 points and a £250 fine. You may get a short ban and a fine, but you cannot receive all 3 (points/ban/fine) just a combination of the 2. Good luck |
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