impmann
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Overcoming stupidity is the greatest challenge left to mankind
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I'm stunned by the comment about the small-scale sellers. Thats what makes the bread and butter for ebay.
I suspect that this new CEO is just looking to make changes because he feels he needs to, to justify his new position. I've been an ebay member for seven years and I've seen huge changes in the numbers of items for sale, the number of sellers and the numbers of SH!T-EATING-W@NK-STAINS who fcuk it all up for the rest of us.
Removing the seller's negative option - yeah, right I can see that being fair. </sarcasm>
Progress? Sounds like a half-baked turd trying to exit from a chafed bum-hole to me.
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Just cos something is good for you doesn't mean its good for everyone - for example Marmite does not make good Dog Food.
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The big problem with selling cars on ebay is that the majority of you are private sellers who are in no way responsible for any faults that develop further down the line, but your buyers have a 90 day period in which they can neg you if they have to have any work done, and are unable to grasp the fact that cheap cars won for peanuts from private sellers are not going to be perfect, nor should they be.
People`s expectations can be very odd - I was talking to a man who fell out with his next door neighbour due to the fact that he bought a car off him for £500, and within 6 months he`d had to change the battery and have new brake shoes - for f*cks sake. Anyone selling an old car will be up against this kind of curse word all the time, there will be those that take the faults with a pinch of salt and leave good feedback if the car gets them home alright, and those that will wait, and leave negative feedback at the first sign of any expenditure on the car that they won for £331.20, safe in the knowledge that the seller won`t be able to do the same. No-one is going to have 100% feedback anymore, are they?
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Last Edit: Feb 1, 2008 11:47:57 GMT by vicsmith
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"SH!T-EATING-W@NK-STAINS" amen to that... and if you think selling cars is bad, you want to try laptops
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i'm getting really fed up of ebayin. The fees seem to get worse, added to paypal fees and increasing parcel fees, i just offer my stuff on forums, less hassle and just as much protection from the "forum reputation" scale as these forced feedbacck results.
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Dude I've been on eBay since the 1990s. LOL. Nearly a frikkin decade in fact. It seems only the last 2 years that its gone so odd for small scale sellers.
I notice a lot more volume sellers. The number of things I buy from people with like 20000 feedback has gone up as well. The level of curse word users seems to be in correlation with their TV advertising....
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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EBAY SELLERS PLEASE READ THISbstardchild
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Surely the neg is the only means of 'managing' the armies of nob end buyers who fanny about, fail to pay etc. You neg em, then next time, everyone can see if they are getting a tyre kicker or a proper buyer. If sellers are unable to neg timewaster buyers, how are you gonna know if your buyer is any good or not? But you neg people just for the fun of it??? Don't you? ;D
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Hmmmmmmm all seems a bit stupid to me. I think it would be better if sellers were FORCED to leave feedback BEFORE the buyer does.
Really, as soon as the buyer has paid, that's it for the seller IMO.
As mentioned, sellers often refuse to leave feedback unless they've got a positive first, even if they don't deserve it. If sellers were forced to leave feedback first, they wouldn't be able to hold buyers feedback "to ransom" like that.
I'd suggest that the seller gets given something like 7 days to leave feedback. 7 days is a decent amount of time for any buyer to pay or at least make contact, (I always pay immediately after the auction where possible) so after this time it's fair enough for the seller to leave negative feedback if the buyer has gone AWOL. But if payment has been made etc, then there is no reason why the seller shouldn't want to leave positive feedback. Then if the goods arrive and all is well, buyer gets the opportunity to leave a return pos, or if there are issues with a curse word item etc, neutral/neg feedback as appropriate. If need be (nobber/tw*thead) buyers etc, the seller could be given a chance to leave a follow up comment (as is done now I believe) to defend themselves. It could even be an added option when making listing "how quickly must buyer make contact/payment," which could then be displayed in the listing for all bidders to see. Then they'd have no excuse for not paying etc in time.
I guess that favours the buyers a bit, but it is just my opinion and probably influenced by the fact that I do alot more buying than selling.
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Jeeves
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Sorry to drag up a thread from yesterday - I only just read this one this morning.
As a small-scale seller, this probably spells the end of my trading on eBay. It's already hard enough dealing with people who take three weeks to pay for an item they won but then expect it to be on their doorstep the next day, and this will just make it worse.
I've got a workshop full of 70s and 80s spare parts, but it's getting to the point where there are just so many idiots bidding on things that they have no intention of paying for that it's just not worth the hassle anymore - I'd be better off weighing it all in than spending the time chasing people up
Surely the whole point of eBay is the equality of trust between buyer and seller. It might get abused from time to time at the moment, but the feedback mechanism helps balance this out. Moving this balance all in favour of the buyer (or the seller, for that matter) just destroys the whole thing for everyone.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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