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Well, finally decided to look abroad for my next car....It seems I really can't get what I want over here without paying through the nose for it and that's not something I'm inclined to do! Decided this could be more 'fun' as well ;D I've found a few example instances of the costs, trials and tribulations of getting a car imported from the States to the UK - such as here: www.import-car.info/shipping.shtml...Which suggests $1500USD is the going rate - for a RoRo transport deal, at least. A dealership I was speaking to today said that for $3000USD (inc. insurance) that it'd be in the UK in 36 days.... Anyone have any other examples of what I should be paying - or anything to look out for? Here's another thing - I understand that when it's in the country you have to pay a 10% tax then 17.5% VAT - is that correct? If so, is that on the value of the car, or the purchase price....What kind of maths goes on... If anyone has any shipper recommendations too, that'd be amazing These are the kind of things I've been looking at: I'm assuming that as these are mostly pre '72 that they don't need SVA'ing, just an MOT....then/and/or registering beforehand. Thanks! (and a belated happy new year.....) So much fine tin on US eBay.....bad for my health!
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think if its more than 25/30 years old you pay 5% import duty
this may have changed tho
ask bryn innit
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Just had a look at the customs site and it's a bit baffling there, I'll try to make head and tail of it tomorrow - things like : Think I might ring them and ask
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Last Edit: Jan 3, 2008 21:53:24 GMT by Lewis
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Beware of using RoRo if you're organising it yourself rather than through an agent, there has been quite a few instances of cars turning up with parts missing sometimes entire drivetrains! If you can share a container with someone it would be the most secure route.
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Aircooled is cool.......
But V8 is great!!!!!!
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40ft container from the states used to be £800 IIRC. Get a few motors in if your not scared to strap them from the roof of the container into a "domino" configuration. Last person I saw do this totalled a jetta and a P reg BMW 5 series. No idea what they arrived like!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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I went to the docks yesterday to pick up Bryn's van with him: It all seemed rather civilised actually and his van was just as he left it - including some goodies in the back and his sunglasses still on the dash. I think he paid around £1000 and some sort of tax on it's arrival. It didn't take too long either. I'd post pictures of some of the other stuff that was in the shipper's warehouse but I don't want to show anything that's being kept quiet - needless to say the UK has a few more classic yanks and some tasty 'dubs that it didn't have this time last year. ;D I'm sure Bryn will have more info on shipping.
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Looks awesome ;D - and that'd be appreciated. 1k seems very reasonable, would be interested to know what it was One thing I've been told is to make sure the interior is covered with plastic - otherwise you can occasionally end up with the interior covered with oil! Magnette, cheers...I'd definitely be doing it via an agent (and preferably a reputable one ) so hopefully it'd go OK and not be too much hassle. Don't want to overdo myself!
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if you do, only the 442 will suffice. other options are GHEY.
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The 442 is quite cool, isn't it... Bit plain from the rear though! ...but it is a manual - yee-haw! Nice building, too!
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Last Edit: Jan 3, 2008 23:05:49 GMT by Lewis
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plain from the rear? its gorgeous! please, make it that one, ii've liked all your cars so far, and that would be what they call ICING
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cost of car cost of shipping duty = 10% of the car VAT = 17.5% of the car, the shipping and the duty.
Yup, a tax on a tax.
SVA is not required for a car over 10 years old, only an MOT.
Don;t forget to include the cost of getting the car from where the seller is to a port.
Do a search mate, I did a long post a.l about sourcing a car in the US and the various things bringing it in.
The old 5% duty loophole has been well and truely closed now.
Pickups and vans are either 22.5% VAT or 22.5% duty, I can't remember which.
$800 might get you a container but you'll possibly have to pay another $700 in additional fees - they charge extra for loading, unloading, customs clearance, paperwork handling, etc. so get a full quote up front rather than get surprised later.
Bank on $1200 - $1500 for shipping. Theres little difference in the cost of RO-RO and container and both have their pro's and cons. non-runners cannot be sent RO-RO.
The idea of packing a load of stuff in a container is fine so long as you are there to do it or else you will be paying a docking company $50 per hour loading on putting your stuff in the container as well as the $150 they charge you for putting the container on the boat.... And don't imagine they pack these things at all carefully. I knew a chap who's '49 Chevy came over with both front wings bashed to bits because it has been sliding side to side in the container against a bunchof loose parts. And no, your insurance does not cover this. Maritime insurance only covers the total loss of the cargo due to the ship sinking. I have heard some guys get a container to themselves not so they can pack it with stuff but to make sure thier car travels without a dozen loose engine blocks sliding round in there with it...
Thats one advantage of RO-RO as well.
Next thing is to get a professional independant appraisal of you potential purchase. This will cost $200-$400 but would you spend £4K+ on a car you haven't even seen?
There are a few specialists in the UK who will source a car in the US for you and you pay a price based on it arriving here as described - so any damage in transit they pay for. I had a service shipping on my Fury and the screen was cracked when it arrived so they coughed the £450 for a new screen for me! Nice one. If that was in my own container I'd be paying for the screen.
ANd TBH, I looked at a few nice cars in the US and it would be cheaper to buy them here because of the higher values these cars have in the US. A 4-4-2 might be $25K for a really nice one (before you add shipping and taxes) but over here you'd get £7500 - £9K for it. I've heard of a lot of nice muscle cars being sold abroad because they are so cheap here compared to USA or Scandanavia, Germany etc.
So buyer beware.
If what you want is something special or unusual then you have to ship it and bear the extra cost. But you do that becuase thats the only way you'll get that 1965 Belvedere Wagon.
With real big ticket cars and the newer stuff you can make a good saving cashwise but generally my ready reckoner says cheaper cars are poor value.
A $1200 car I was looking at in Az was going to have cost me £2600 by the time it was on my drive.
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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bbq
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Anyone know what shipping from Aus is? They're RHD there!
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2003 Suzuki Wagon R+. Feel the POWAAARRRR!!! 1968 Volvo 142. My street/strip car. Currently fubarred, it will run one day. 1971 Volvo 142. Parts car. Stripped and gone. 1993 Nissan Sunny diesel. Runs on cooking oil! [/UR
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speak to my mate Greg, he locates & finds & imports cars from the states for a living.
tell him what your after, he'll sort out the rest.
outlaw427@aol.com or 07900272691
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71 Alfa GT 1300 Junior 89 Alfa 75 3.0 V6 Veloce 89 Alfa 75 3.0 V6 America 2015 C220 estate Daily shunter
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That 442 is gorgeous! I don't like Mustangs anymore though having driven one. Oh dear.
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1986 Citroen 2CV Dolly Other things. Check out my Blog for the latest! www.hubnut.org
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did you drive a properly sorted one, or one with 40 years of bodging, dubious mods, wear and tear, etc? And which Mustang, they are all quite different...
Muscle and Classic Ford did a feature on first generation Mustang front ends a while back I read and was quite an eye opener on how they wear and fail with age and use and abuse.
A properly sorted 'Stang is a great car, even a Mustang II can be made great if you do the mods. Any old car is subject to being curse word if its not in good order mechanically. And sadly a lot of the yank cars in the UK have been maintained by idiots, meanig they drive awful. Thats why I got the Plymouth in direct from the US...
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Also factor into the cost the clearing agents fees, mine was an extra £700-odd quid on a car worth $2500.
'92 Buick Roadmaster Wagon - $2500 Trucking TN - NY - $900 Shipping - $1300 Total - $4700 or £2475
10% Duty on $2500 (or £1300) - £130
17.5% VAT on car/transport/duty (£2475+£130) - £455
Running Total - £3060
Import, Clearance, Agent Fees - £700
Grand Total - £3760 (for a £1300 car!)
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Last Edit: Jan 4, 2008 14:32:51 GMT by jettadeluxe
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Its normally between £800-£1300 for the container (depending on size) inc all relevant dock/shipping fees at both ends. (from the states) Taxes: VAT @ 17.5% is applicable on whole cars - used or new 5% on parts (i think) If its a 'commercial' vehicle (pick-up, van etc) the VAT + 10% Duty is payable Also, fill up any space in the vehicle with 'stuff'. Normally get completely overlooked. Or buy 2 cars, strip them down, spread the mixture of panels + parts across 2 containers and reassemble here = save 12.5% of the VAT LOL The best thing you can do is get a reciept for LESS than you paid for it. Not too much less...they aint stupid....but a $10K car can be written up as $7K easy enough
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350
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bryn
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What they all said, plus a few other things. But I just landed back after a rather long three days on the road. So sleep first.
The van is sold and currently being sorted by it's new owner. Boo hoo.
But in general I found it easier than catching a ferry. Do it ;D
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Taxes: VAT @ 17.5% is applicable on whole cars - used or new 5% on parts (i think) If its a 'commercial' vehicle (pick-up, van etc) the VAT + 10% Duty is payable Also, fill up any space in the vehicle with 'stuff'. Normally get completely overlooked. Nope, commericals, pickups etc are 22% Taxes are just what I said they were fella. 10% duty on the car 17.5% VAT on the car, the shipping and the duty. The duty rate on parts varies from about 4% through to 30% depending on what the part is. Its called BTI and theres about 10000000000000 different classificatrions. A car radio is a different BTI class to a tyre. An in-car TV is a diferent class to an in car CD player. The problem with putting stuff in the car is that the cvars have to be left unlocked on the docks. Stuff in the cars is often lifted by light fingered dockworkers or other scrotes. don't forget most US docks are mafia controlled labour wise. With all the drugs and arms and stolen gear going in and out the US don't think customs won't look.... Used greasy parts will probably be fine but shiney new stuff will either be nicked or you will get a separate customs bill. They ain't that stupid. Its all about luck in that case. I have heard stories of dockers taking stuff which was left in the boot of shipping cars and lobbing it in the ocean as if its not on the manifest it doesn't go on the ship. I think thatmight have been Ro-Ro from New York. I forget. Also take anything of value off the car and ship it separately. Chap I was friendly with a few years back had two 50s cars part-stripped on the docks - no hub caps, no badges, emblems, etc. all gone. Also have a spare set of keys, a guy I knew had a car shipped same night a bunchof kids though it was funny to breakin and take all the keys outof allt he cars on the dock (they are left in the docks with the keys in the ignition). So his car was push-loaded with a fork lift (damaged rear bumper) and when he went to pick it up it had no keys. Lost keys and other paperpwork bits etc are fairly common so duplicate everything. The chap I know still in the import game uses his own containers and his US agent packs them, that way he knows what he consigns to ship will actually arrive intact in the UK.
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Last Edit: Jan 4, 2008 18:58:13 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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