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Aug 13, 2023 10:51:59 GMT
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Or Where were you in '73? (or '74) So this week (just gone) was the 50th anniversary of the release of American Graffiti- one of the biggest influences on the hot rod and custom scene, though it was actually 1974 when it was first shown in Britain. It wasn't the start of rodding in Britain but the massive growth in the scene after that point can't be denied. Pretty much everyone who saw the film wanted a car to cruise in. Most of them didn't have the money or talent to build a Deuce coupe or Mercury sled but even if they were just bolting a set of side pipes and slot mags to their dailys, countless custom cars can trace their origins to that film. I first saw it at college in the early 90s. They used to show us films every Wednesday which meant an easy afternoon off for the tutors. Some of them were vaguely educational like documentaries or arty European animation but there were a few normal films too. If I remember correctly they also showed Bladerunner and I think The Exorcist too! Back then the car I liked most was the '58 Impala. Maybe because the white stood out best on screen or possibly I just identified with the nerdy character who drove it. Now, given the choice it would have to be Bob Falfa's 55 Chevy. Funnily though, I never really liked the '32 Coupe, probably because of that chopped grill shell.
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Aug 13, 2023 10:55:01 GMT
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For those of you interested there's a good show on BBC sounds about American Graffiti (mostly). It concentrates mostly on the musical aspect of the film really with only a passing mention of cars but it's a good listen nonetheless.
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MiataMark
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Aug 13, 2023 11:11:30 GMT
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I first saw it at college in the early 90s. They used to show us films every Wednesday which meant an easy afternoon off for the tutors. Some of them were vaguely educational like documentaries or arty European animation but there were a few normal films too. If I remember correctly they also showed Bladerunner and I think The Exorcist too! Off track, at school so <18, we were taken to the cinema to see Macbeth (Roman Polanski's version) anybody who's seen it will probably agree not really suitable for <18's. It was the first film he made after Sharon Tates murder by the Manson gang. For American Graffiti as well as the main feature cars there some great cars in the street/cruising scenes include incongruously a Frogeye Sprite.
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Aug 13, 2023 12:34:25 GMT
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If you look at the cruising scenes there are quite a few background cars that don't fit the period, with mag wheels or post '62 models etc. The Sprite would be legit though IMO because British sports cars were quite popular in the US.
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jimi
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Aug 13, 2023 13:52:06 GMT
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I remember going to see it in Kirkcaldy (the Rio Cinema I think) around 1974, I would have had this mini at the time
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Aug 13, 2023 17:13:18 GMT
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American Graffiti is my favourite film of all time. When I was in California I actually drove through Modesto (although like Steve I didn't "cut over to G Street" at Curt's request either).
However, coming out the other side on the way back, I noticed a familiarly named road on the map, stopped, and took a picture of us looking back at it. Paradise Road, the location of the final race between Falfa and Milner. I was very pleased with myself. It was only after we got back to the hotel and had access to the Internet, that I discovered that the race had actually been filmed in Frates Road in Petaluma... Nuts!
In fact all the street scenes were in Petaluma, despite being set in Modesto, where George Lucas was brought up. It's said that he based the characters on different parts of his life as a teenager - the studious guy (Curt), the awkward nerd (Terry) and the hot rodder (John).
Also the part where John takes Carol round the junk yard and mentions "just about the hairiest crash we've had around here" was influenced by Lucas' own accident where he was very lucky not to have been killed.
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Aug 13, 2023 17:33:31 GMT
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I'm too young to remember it first time round, it's one of those 70s films where nothing really happens... It's a sort of snapshot in time though, and after watching it, it makes you want to go and cruise around with a pack of fags rolled in your sleeve looking cool.
"What happened to your flathead?" "Your mother!"
The soundtrack is the likes of which we will never see again due to royalties, licensing etc.
Harrison Ford is way cooler in this than Star Wars, Indiana Jones or Blade Runner. Who would think a cowboy hat and a badass Chevy would work so well?
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Last Edit: Aug 13, 2023 17:34:22 GMT by generallee
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I'm too young to remember it first time round, it's one of those 70s films where nothing really happens... Glad You wrote it. So I don't have to risk having my mouth washed out with soap. Or what ever compares to that in writing taboos in the web. Yes I confess, I wasn't really impressed from that movie, so I better stop writing here - NOW.
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I'm too young to remember it first time round, it's one of those 70s films where nothing really happens... It's a sort of snapshot in time though, and after watching it, it makes you want to go and cruise around with a pack of fags rolled in your sleeve looking cool. That's what makes it great really. You either get it or you don't. If it had a more obvious storyline it wouldn't feel so realistic. Those of you who like 'Graffiti should also check out Dazed And Confused which was made in the 90s but set in the 70s and obviously heavily influenced by AG.
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I first saw it at college in the early 90s. They used to show us films every Wednesday which meant an easy afternoon off for the tutors. Some of them were vaguely educational like documentaries or arty European animation but there were a few normal films too. If I remember correctly they also showed Bladerunner and I think The Exorcist too! Off track, at school so <18, we were taken to the cinema to see Macbeth (Roman Polanski's version) anybody who's seen it will probably agree not really suitable for <18's. It was the first film he made after Sharon Tates murder by the Manson gang. For American Graffiti as well as the main feature cars there some great cars in the street/cruising scenes include incongruously a Frogeye Sprite. My sixth form English class was shown Polanski's MacBeth in 1982 as part of our studies. I believe most of us thought it was pretty good. Back on topic replicas of THX138 and the black '55 Chevrolet exist here in Balclutha. A local lad now in his 50s has long been a huge American Graffitti fan. Pretty sure he started making the chassis for one of his cars, possibly THX138, in metalwork class at the local high school.
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50 years of American Graffitimadmog
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Aug 15, 2023 22:57:27 GMT
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I always thought it interesting that as a nostalga film it was set only 10 years into the past. Perhaps less if it was a few years in production. I couldn't imagine a nostalgic film or even coming of age film being made today about 2013. It's just not different enough. Perhaps set around going into Covid would work.
At the same time LA in 1973 would, in my mind if not reality, be very different from itself between the '60s and '70s.
In the '80s in a cheap part of London where the only performance upgrade I could afford on my Minor was removing the heavy bumpers and rear seats, sunny LA as portrayed in AG seemed like 100 years in the future. In my '80s world it was songs about unemployment and life in a northern town. Cooler kids than me glamming up as new romantics - a bit of colour in a grey world.
A secondhand car showroom had what I now know to be a Mach 1 Mustang. Even though a relic from the '70s by 1986 it was to me as a dazzling spaceship from the future. 5.7 litres of unashamed American 'curse word You' making pub talk of porting 1.3 and 1.6 Kent crossflow engines seem as relevant as starting handles. Way out of my budget of course. Would be yuppies aspiring to run-of-the-mill BMW 3 series from their FWD Escort XR3s seemed as dull as wanting a mortgage or British Gas shares.
But if the cars weren't accessible the music was a bit more so. Before t'internet and in my case a video recorder the only access to AG was when it came on TV. Primed to watch it by references in Street Machine and Custom Car. No pausing or rewinding. So a took a bit of digging to find Jan & Dean (Two Girls for Every Boy) even though I was already into the Beach Boys.
Embarrassingly now, I thought then that if only I could make a car faster than the other teenagers with clapped out Escorts and Minis and fearlessness somehow all my other problems would be solved. Money, girls, crappy job, all would resolve to a '60s surf soundtrack. The California dream would remain as unattainable as visiting the moon for many years to come.
Maybe 10 years after I first saw AG I watched it again with older eyes and saw how Mildner's arc had already peaked, he wasn't moving on to something and his local hero racer struggles were becoming like the childish games we mostly put away and move on from. "But I was the best at hungry Hippos, nobody this side of the valley came close". Sure you were son, got to go fix the leak in my greenhouse, we'll talk soon, I promise.
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Since Richard Dreyfuss starred in American Graffiti, there is another Movie he appeared in: Tin Men. It's about two rival salesmen for aluminium sidings in the 1960s, played by Dreyfuss and Danny DeVito. They first meet when one of them drives his brand new cadillac out of the dealers showroom and crashed into the other ones quite new caddy. It results into a fight and in the end both are without a job. Only then the Dreyfuss character mentiones that it would be a good idea to sell these akward little cars from germany. And THAT would have been a good starting point for a movie that unfortunatley never was written or filmed. A movie about Carl Hahn, later Volkswagen CEO (?) in germany, but in the sixties responsible for those legendary sales adds we all know like these:
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