Roach
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Hi gang. So can anyone recommend a good jump pack. Something that’d start up our retro cars, but also man enough to start a modern diesel etc? I have trickle chargers for the long term sitters. But I need something for those times through winter when we get caught out, and the morning turns into a hell session of jump leads and cold knuckles. I’m not afraid to spend money, I need a proper piece of kit. Nothing that’ll let me down on said morning, as I’m likely to lose my head. Here is a pic of my new old retro to brighten the post!
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My eyes are drawn to that lush deep pile carpet in your garage!
Good man
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I have one of those small jobbies, its badged UTRAI 1600A. Cost me about 70 quid of Amazon. It started my Boxster3.2 with a very dead battery without any problem at all. They're all pretty much the same just check the reviews or feedback. I've also started a diesel galaxy with it no issues.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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I don't have one to recommend,but I recently scrapped the Golf and the toe truck lady used a tiny little thing and it caught instantly after sitting outside for nearly two months. Very impressed, the Golf was never a great starter. Maybe it needed a new battery (on top of everything else)?
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Jonny69
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Oct 26, 2021 10:53:26 GMT
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I had a Clarke Jump Start 4000. It would start anything and you could crank straight out of it. It lasted about 8 years living under the stairs though I probably could have done with looking after it a bit better. Only criticism is that the charging circuit was a bit basic and I had to replace the 8-pin chip that controlled the charging because it burned out. Pretty sure it was under £100 when I bought mine but batteries have got very expensive over the last 10 years. www.machinemart.co.uk/p/jump-start-4000/I keep getting drawn to the tiny lithium jump packs but I don't know anyone who uses one regularly or can comment about longevity. Pretty sure you can't crank directly out of them and there's no way you'd be able to keep cranking and cranking something stubborn like you can with the big Clarke.
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Oct 26, 2021 11:03:36 GMT
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Don't buy the little ones - they can crank but they go dead if not used for 6 months. Have not had one last longer than 3 years. To solve my problem I installed a battery cutoff switch on the negative battery line and now never have a dead battery after storing for a while.
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Roach
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Oct 26, 2021 11:05:32 GMT
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Yeah see I’m drawn to the little ‘new age’ jobs over the big bulky things I see being used all the time.
Maybe I’ll stick old school… hence the starting of this thread. I guess I was secretly hoping for a steam of people saying how good the new style ones are.
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Oct 26, 2021 11:26:16 GMT
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Same as 60six i've had 2 of the little one's both failed in no time at all BUT both super cheap from centre isle of lidl and the second was a free replacement after i complained about the first one, Also the first one was probably 6 years ago so they maybe better now...if any one knows update us please
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slater
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Oct 26, 2021 11:39:29 GMT
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I've had no problems with my noco gb40. The larger models are better for sure but it starts my veg oil burners from cold so cant be too bad!
The days of big heavy lead acid packs are long gone.
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Roach
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Oct 26, 2021 16:13:10 GMT
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Oct 26, 2021 16:16:42 GMT
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I have the same pack as Jonny69 - works well but is f***ing big and heavy - which can be a problem when trying to balance it in the engine bay as the leads are too short to stand it on the floor.
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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ChasR
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Another vote for Noco packs here. I have two. A GB40 and a 70. 40 is very compact and can jumpstart most things. But diesels it will struggle with, and on my very dead Mondeo 2.5T, it did turn it over but slowly. The 70 will jump start just about anything. It’s big and cumbersome but then again, it works. I’ve had them for theee years. The 50 may be a better bet for most but since I’ve only used a 40 or a 70, I’d recommend a 70 if space isn’t a problem. I was meant to do a couple of videos on the packs covering all of the situations. Here is one . http://instagram.com/p/B-UbUMyjnV8
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I've got a Yaber branded small jump pack, it would start our 04 L322 diesel range rover almost every cold morning. Couldn't start it if it was proper flat mind but gave it enough boost to recover the perpetual battery drain. Still useful now and it's a good few years old.
I can't find the same model on Amazon but it wouldbe equivalent to the small noco one posted earlier.
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Roach
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Oct 27, 2021 17:41:49 GMT
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Thanks all. Think I’m gonna go for the GB70.
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xfu990
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Oct 27, 2021 18:36:48 GMT
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Good choice, the GB70 is excellent, it brings my old Grey Fergie Diesel tractor back to life every time, who needs a new battery
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ChasR
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Oct 27, 2021 19:18:29 GMT
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Thanks all. Think I’m gonna go for the GB70. I may as well be the "subjective" influencer here: alistair who doesn't frequent here as much rates his for firing up his Yank tanks. The garage I know has a GB70. In prototype workshops I've been in before, they used two kinds of chargers -SIP -Noco GB150s Almost all were becoming the GB150s after a while. I'm sure the 70s would have been fine, but I'm guesssing they were banking on some killer power draws with prototype vehicles. Anything is possible with engineers .
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MiataMark
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Oct 29, 2021 11:13:05 GMT
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I've got a NOCO GB20 that I bough in Halfords, but I've not had to use it yet though. But thanks for reminding me that I probably should check it's charged I've also got one of the small units, probably bought from Aldi/Lidl or eBay used that a few times but wouldn't trust it on a big car. (probably should check it;s charged as well).
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Paul
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Oct 29, 2021 11:50:50 GMT
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I've got a NOCO - forget which one...wasn't cheap but it's remarkably portable and has started my 1.0 Polo and my 5.0l CROWN Vic so it's good for the lot. It's part of my tool kit now and not much bigger than a bluetooth speaker.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:07:37 GMT
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Here’s one you really don’t want….. Happened across it in the garage earlier. IIRC it was given to no. 1 son and he discarded it after it not working for him. Expected it to be dead flat, but stuck a meter on it and got 31v….. WTF?! Why would you plug 30v into your 12v car…. Something bad could happen. To make sure no one was tempted to try to use it and in the interests of science, I broke into it….. Yes, that is 20 x 1.5v AA batteries in ordinary alkaline flavour connected in series, and more of less nothing else. Apart from a big diode to stop the car trying to charge the thing, as although the blurb claims (lies!) it will recharge if left plugged in to the running car for 40 minutes, the writing on the side of the actual cells they will blow up if you do…. Still available on eBay if you feel the need for 20 very over-priced AA batteries in a very hard to open package! Nick
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