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jumping round the threads I often come across people using what seem to be standard definitions
i.e. the "full JDM look" or "properly "euroed".
Since it's Christmas and we all stopped working last week (:-)) how about letting everyone in on the lingo?
Sort of retro cars a-z stylee
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I have no idea what euro'd means but Full JDM would refer to Japanese Domestic Market additions, in most Nissan/Datsun cases the Datsun variant didn't have the name that was given to the Nissan of the same model, and was infact given a number, there were also other things exterior style wise that were changed on export market cars, (fender mirrors, tail-light sections, etc.) so JDM is making your export variant look like it was a Japanese Domestic Market variant. At least.... that's how I interpret it. ;D
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Dec 14, 2004 10:11:03 GMT
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I have no idea what euro'd means but Full JDM would refer to Japanese Domestic Market additions, in most Nissan/Datsun cases the Datsun variant didn't have the name that was given to the Nissan of the same model, and was infact given a number, there were also other things exterior style wise that were changed on export market cars, (fender mirrors, tail-light sections, etc.) so JDM is making your export variant look like it was a Japanese Domestic Market variant. At least.... that's how I interpret it. ;D Don't tell anyone but I didn't know what that stood for! Thanks K! Ps. Euro-look, to me, means slammed over is small wide wheels, and on this forum it means straight paint ideally bright. Sometimes (on RR) we tend to combine it with other terms though, especially the VeeDubbers! That's when you start getting Euro-resto lookers...which basically means it's got a roof-rack!
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Dec 14, 2004 11:04:15 GMT
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My advice is to try to avoid the lingo. Every special interest group has it's own language, which is supposed to make it easier to comunicate, but in my experience tends to exclude people who aren't in the know. Yes it's easier to type an abreviation or one word instead of seven, but if half your audiance don't understand, or have different understandings of the term used then what's the result? Confusion.
As kyteler said a lot of the terminology that gets chucked around comes from the VeeDubbers and can't really be applied to other cars, but people still try. I remember a magazine describing a Mini as Cal Look, how the hell can a Mini be Cal Look?
Furthemore I dislike generic terms for cars because they restric creativity. If you were to set out to create a car in a particular style then you would be restricted in what you could do. If on the other hand you start out with an open mind and a blank sheet of paper you have no restrictions. You never know, you might create a new style.
I'm all for plain engish, that way nobody missunderstands.
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Dec 14, 2004 11:10:37 GMT
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My advice is to try to avoid the lingo. Every special interest group has it's own language, which is supposed to make it easier to comunicate, but in my experience tends to exclude people who aren't in the know. Yes it's easier to type an abreviation or one word instead of seven, but if half your audiance don't understand, or have different understandings of the term used then what's the result? Confusion. As kyteler said a lot of the terminology that gets chucked around comes from the VeeDubbers and can't really be applied to other cars, but people still try. I remember a magazine describing a Mini as Cal Look, how the hell can a Mini be Cal Look? Furthemore I dislike generic terms for cars because they restric creativity. If you were to set out to create a car in a particular style then you would be restricted in what you could do. If on the other hand you start out with an open mind and a blank sheet of paper you have no restrictions. You never know, you might create a new style. I'm all for plain engish, that way nobody missunderstands. Devils advocate indeed! Here's my old Cal-look Skoda: and my current Euro-J-lowrider-bozouku-resto-retro Cressida:
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Last Edit: Dec 14, 2004 11:11:54 GMT by rmad
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Dec 14, 2004 11:13:39 GMT
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I have no idea what euro'd means but Full JDM would refer to Japanese Domestic Market additions, in most Nissan/Datsun cases the Datsun variant didn't have the name that was given to the Nissan of the same model, and was infact given a number, there were also other things exterior style wise that were changed on export market cars, (fender mirrors, tail-light sections, etc.) so JDM is making your export variant look like it was a Japanese Domestic Market variant. At least.... that's how I interpret it. ;D Spot on - but what's a fender.....! rmad - Don't you mean that's your old Euro-resto-cal-look Skoda?
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Last Edit: Dec 14, 2004 11:15:07 GMT by iRocco
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Dec 14, 2004 11:23:38 GMT
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Spot on - but what's a fender.....! Guitar? Country singer? ;D
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Dec 14, 2004 14:29:00 GMT
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I have to admit I haven't a clue what a lot of the terminology means, and as devilsadvocate says, a lot of it is put about by the VW crowd. I doubt it's meant to alienate people but it still does. Took me ages to find out what Cal Look, and So-Cal looks were (I still don't really know for sure ). Rat Look is pretty self explanatory... A euro-look (as I understand it) is slammed, de-trimmed and sprayed in a non-metallic colour. Then again if I detrimmed and lowered a car, but painted it metallic bronze would that mean it's not a Euro-looker?! What if I wanted a roof rack?! It's all a bit too confusing to me! ;D There are too many terms and definitions - I can't really be arsed to learn them as it doesn't help me appreciate the cars any more! Plus, I too dislike being restricted in the look I'm creating with my car just because it doesn't fit with the criteria of those "in the know"
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Dec 14, 2004 14:36:19 GMT
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'Euro-look'?? Bo11ox to that.
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Dec 14, 2004 14:59:18 GMT
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So "Brit Look" would be raised on blocks of concrete, wheels off, sprayed some cacky brown or beige colour and parked on the hard shoulder, bonnet open with clouds of smoke pouring out of a pencil sized exhaust?
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Dec 14, 2004 16:44:59 GMT
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On the subject of definitions what exactly is Retro? My Imps now seem to be Retro instead of classic! ;D ;D
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Dec 14, 2004 17:17:51 GMT
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On the subject of definitions what exactly is Retro? My Imps now seem to be Retro instead of classic! ;D ;D To me the retro scene seems to be about modified older cars, rather than than restored, cosseted, polished classics. The term "classic" seems to have lost all meaning anyway. Once upon a time a classic car was one that stood out from it's contemporaries, these days it seems to be any car more than about twenty years old.
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Dec 14, 2004 18:10:43 GMT
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Spot on - but what's a fender.....! ;D ;D ;D What bizarre timing, just last night my brother and I were watching some ratty UK cop show and they mentioned "front wings" and my brother said .. What the fcuk? ... a wing?!" So, I had to explain that those crazy people over there call front fenders, wings. ;D
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Dec 14, 2004 19:13:16 GMT
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When it comes to cars it's amazing how much the language differs across the atlantic. I used to be on a forum that started a US/UK car phrasebook. You know the sort of thing:
Fender=Wing Trunk=Boot Hood=Bonnet Gasoline=Petrol etc.
In the end it got totally out of hand and silly. One of the funniest things I've ever read. I think the turning point was when we got to Doohickey=Thingy...
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Dec 14, 2004 19:16:31 GMT
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When it comes to cars it's amazing how much the language differs across the atlantic. I used to be on a forum that started a US/UK car phrasebook. You know the sort of thing: Fender=Wing Trunk=Boot Hood=Bonnet Gasoline=Petrol etc. In the end it got totally out of hand and silly. One of the funniest things I've ever read. I think the turning point was when we got to Doohickey=Thingy... Trust me, I know the feeling.
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Dec 14, 2004 19:19:59 GMT
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Interesting thread...... Is my Sceptre a 'Hot Rod'? (It's got a more powerful engine installed..... ) Is it a 'Kustom'? (Some trim's been shaved & it's lowered..... ) Is it a 'Rat'? (It's tatty & painted rattle can satin black..... ) Or is it a bit of everthing? I think that sometimes we can get too caught up in trying to put cars into catagories, I like lots of different styles, some of which I didn't know existed untill I discovered this site...... At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to get another daily driver to replace the Skoda (thinking about an old Polo, to mod) or mod the Skoda....... I'm very conscious about doing something that 'fits in' , and isn't seen as some half-arsed atempt to build a chav-moblie.... Does this make sense..... ?
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Dec 14, 2004 19:21:49 GMT
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I'm very conscious about doing something that 'fits in' , and isn't seen as some half-arsed atempt to build a chav-moblie.... Does this make sense..... ? Absolutely!
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Dec 14, 2004 19:23:31 GMT
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It's not meant to be elitist...my apologies to anyone who feels it is. The real interest for me is when people break the rules...or 'do' what is (according to the real elitists) the 'wrong' look to the 'wrong' car. That's why when I see a Golf built as a Resto-cal (standard body, slammed and accessorised) I think it's cool and then think about the same thing done to a Datsun Cherry. It's not about following or copying it's about doing your own thing, but there's nothing wrong with it appealing to others and if that means using a few tried and tested methods then so be it.
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Dec 14, 2004 19:25:43 GMT
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Interesting thread...... At the moment I'm trying to decide whether to get another daily driver to replace the Skoda (thinking about an old Polo, to mod) or mod the Skoda....... I'm very conscious about doing something that 'fits in' , and isn't seen as some half-arsed atempt to build a chav-moblie.... Mod the Skoda. Definately. Do it. I've really fancied doing a nice Favvy for a long time. Slammed over euro-style 15's should do the trick, outside, with a G60 (?) under the bonnet! What model is it? We've got a '93 blackline kicking about gathering moss which I reckon would really benefit from this treatment....
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Dec 14, 2004 19:32:36 GMT
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Using terms for "looks" is useful short hand, for example if I say I saw a fantastic euro-look Opel at the weekend, its easier than explaining exactly what it looked like.
As Rmad said my favourite thing is when someone breaks the "rules", big 18" wheels on a Euro looker? What I like even more is when someone invents a style that seems to be all its own. And when Retro Cars eventualyl features Brian Burrows' Squareback you'll be able to see this in action. More importantly you'll be able to see the thought process behind it!!
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