MiataMark
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easy brake bleeding?MiataMark
@garra
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Can you use a vacuum oil extractor (something like this PELA) to bleed brakes?  Or any other tricks for single handed brake bleeding? SWBO is getting a bit fed of down-hold-up-down-hold-up-...
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1990 Mazda MX-52012 BMW 118i (170bhp) - white appliance 2011 Land Rover Freelander 2 TD4 2003 Land Rover Discovery II TD52007 Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon JTDm
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sb
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Last Edit: Jun 22, 2019 9:42:09 GMT by sb
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easy brake bleeding?peteh1969
@peteh1969
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Jun 22, 2019 10:56:19 GMT
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Can you use a vacuum oil extractor (something like this PELA) to bleed brakes? Or any other tricks for single handed brake bleeding? SWBO is getting a bit fed of down-hold-up-down-hold-up-...
That type of bleed system works great on short single line types like Bikes a Gunston Easy Bleed (from Halfords) will work best for you and you can do it all on your own (it works on cars with ABS as well). |
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Jun 22, 2019 11:25:47 GMT
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MiataMark
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easy brake bleeding?MiataMark
@garra
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Jun 22, 2019 11:50:11 GMT
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I don't have access to an air compressor, I've got an easibleed but it doesn't fit my master cylinder and I've always found them a bit messy.
I've seen hand operated vacuum bleeders but not that I can but for use tomorrow!
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Jun 22, 2019 15:17:59 GMT
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I've done countless cars over the years, alone, and never had a fancy tool.
There is no need for all that loosen, press, tighten release lark.
First attach a clear pipe to the bleed nipple, and open the nipple.
Keep checking that the fluid level is OK of course.
1 - Slowly depress the pedal to the bottom, and slowly release to the top.
2 - Next press the pedal more quickly to a third stroke and release, 3 times in quick succession.
Go back to 1 and repeat as many times as necessary, always 1 long stroke and 3 short ones.
Once nice clean fluid with no bubbles is coming out of the pipe, after the three short presses tighten the nipple.
I read this in the manual for a Reliant Regal when I was a teenager, its worked every time on every car I've tried including plenty with ABS, and including when I rebuilt all four calipers and replaced lots of hoses on my Carlton, so lots of air in.
Try it even if you have got a tool, and let us know how you get on.
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MiataMark
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easy brake bleeding?MiataMark
@garra
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Jun 22, 2019 20:51:49 GMT
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^ that looks like a good buy, but I need to do it tomorrow think I'll be using SWMBO. Or chris y 's technique. |
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Jun 22, 2019 21:01:30 GMT
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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ChasR
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easy brake bleeding?ChasR
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Whwnever I've tried the 'hose trick' (i/e pump it with either the hose and the jar having fluid in it), or the one-man valve kits, I've never had a pedal I've been happy with, and that includes when garages have done it (i've taken a couple of cars back because of this), or a car I've bought. I've only found 3 ways to work: -2 Man method ; make sure the person you are doing it with is competent ; I've once been caught out by someone who wasn't here, and that became a pain! But like the 'no fancy method', this has a big problem of where the master cylinder tends to go through its travel ; on an older car you can end up needing a new master cylinder due to the seals going into an area that's not often used. -Eezibleed/Pressure method. I don't use the Eezibleed anymore but Sealey/Laser do a good 'pump system www.lasertools.co.uk/product/4832You can get these from Clarke and Sealey too, at a much smaller price than Laser's RRP ; I bought mine from Screwfix for less cash. RetroWarwicK has used mine with good results IIRC. -Vacuum bleeding It's pretty decent but having a compressor can be handy with this method. |
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slater
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easy brake bleeding?slater
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I find its best to have both on hand. Some cars don't even need a pedal pump. Some are bastards and need every trick in the book.
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MiataMark
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easy brake bleeding?MiataMark
@garra
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I used the tried and tested SWMBO tool, got a nice firm feel (to the pedal) and passed the MOT. I'll probably get the Mityvac tool for future use though.
Good discussion though which has hopefully helped others.
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