merryck
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Sept 28, 2018 18:29:47 GMT
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As the title really. Inspired by the hot rod thread I'm looking into building a Model A pickup. My thinking is that the pickup bed length can account for any discrepancies in wheelbase, so would make for a relatively simple project (relatively!)
Basic plan is;
Get a chassis (black cab? Triumph?)
Put a Rover V8 of some kind in mated to an LT77 gearbox
A fibreglass Model A body
Make up fenders to account for any outriggers
Make up pickup bed to account for chassis length and bring it all together
Is this a ridiculous plan or does it have legs?
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Sept 28, 2018 18:34:47 GMT
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Reliant Scimitar would be the most obvious one.
Personally, I recon a TVR Cerbera backbone chassis has a lot of potential.
Although, a scratch build one with nice shiny hot rods parts from America is quite appealing apart from costs and the extra approval work.
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Sept 28, 2018 19:16:20 GMT
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If you used a scimitar and kept the engine/running gear would you not be able to dodge the BIVA by keeping to the 8 point rule? Making it an even simpler project
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Sept 28, 2018 20:02:10 GMT
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Pretty much any kit car. I used a Dutton on mine, looks ok I think.
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Sept 29, 2018 21:25:19 GMT
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I would go for a 1980's nissan 720 or d21 navara. Rear wheel drive, body-on-frame construction and in the ball park as far as wheelbase and width go.
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Sept 29, 2018 22:47:54 GMT
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Thinking outside the square here but have you considered a 4wd ute chassis? Check out Russian military vehicles derived from the Ford A for inspiration.
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Sept 30, 2018 8:08:03 GMT
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Some one's already put a GRP 32 roadster body on a taxi chassis. I'm not sure if they had to mod it much to fit though. There was also a Willys coupe on a Japanese pick up chassis. The owner reckoned track and wheel base were spot on. Alternatively original Model A chassis come up regularly for reasonable money. If you use model A front and rear axles and steering box it will be fine for registration. The parts are out there and not prohibitively expensive.
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Sept 30, 2018 8:50:07 GMT
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first off are you going the rebody route or biva?
if rebody READ the rules regarding points etc.
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merryck
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Sept 30, 2018 10:09:43 GMT
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My aim was to avoid any kind of BIVA and make use of the 8 point system, keeping the chassis, axles, suspension and brakes all standard.
Very much in the early planning stage at the moment though so very open to taking a different route, but I’m not really keen on mucking around with registration.
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froggy
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Sept 30, 2018 13:17:49 GMT
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Best re body hot rod I’ve seen in a while was based on a Robin Hood kit car . Using a scimitar or taxi to avoid a test seems a bit odd when you’ll end up with a heavy unpleasant thing to drive
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People often murmur about Grand Vitara and Jimny / Samurai chassis' in regard to hot rod platforms.
What would be really interesting would be something 70s lotus like a Europa or Esprit
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froggy
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Seen a model a with a seventies lotus spine chassis under it come up for sale last year part built , looked really well as they had used part of the lotus glass body to bond to the rod body
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mylittletony
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Here is one I prepared earlier, Scimitar based with the build up thread That's very smart work disguising those bits of chassis. Really like it! |
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merryck
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This is exactly what I've got in mind! I'll be reading through that repeatedly! |
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I would go for a 1980's nissan 720 or d21 navara. Rear wheel drive, body-on-frame construction and in the ball park as far as wheelbase and width go. Absolutely do not do this ... if you have a solid enough Nissan 720 to build a rod from, PM me immediately and I will snap your arm off for it  |
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I would go for a 1980's nissan 720 or d21 navara. Rear wheel drive, body-on-frame construction and in the ball park as far as wheelbase and width go. Sorry to be a nay-sayer but this looks totally suitable for a hot rod chassis. (in my opinion)  The engine is too far forward for an early Ford, or any other 20s/30s car, the suspension and steering are huge and ugly and there's a whole bunch of junk ahead of the axle line and you'd never fit it under a pair od fenders either. It might, however fit under a 40s body if you were that way inclined. The Scimitar based rod above looks good because the engine and radiator are set back quite far, relative to the front suspension. |
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Last Edit: Oct 3, 2018 20:52:36 GMT by shielsy68
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I would go for a 1980's nissan 720 or d21 navara. Rear wheel drive, body-on-frame construction and in the ball park as far as wheelbase and width go. Sorry to be a nay-sayer but this looks totally suitable for a hot rod chassis. (in my opinion) The engine is too far forward for an early Ford, or any other 20s/30s car, the suspension and steering are huge and ugly and there's a whole bunch of junk ahead of the axle line and you'd never fit it under a pair od fenders either. It might, however fit under a 40s body if you were that way inclined. The Scimitar based rod above looks good because the engine and radiator are set back quite far, relative to the front suspension. Nay-say away. A forum is for expressing ideas, opinions and info. I'm of the opinion that unless you're hacking up an original, genuine steel body, then a certain amount of adjustment is necessary to fit a body to a chassis it wasn't designed for. There is also another 50 years of technology and research since the Model A came out, so yes, the suspension/engine/radiator will be different, but hot-rodding was just as much about working with what you have or what's available as it was about aesthetics. If a reliant chassis is available, then go for it. We didn't really get them over here, so they don't enter into the thought process, whereas there's quite a lot of old utes with rusty cabs, so they're easier to adapt. |
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