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My car is due an MOT soon but is now exempt, I was looking at the V112 form and it says.
"Engine – alternative cubic capacities of the
same basic engine and alternative original
equipment engines (if the number of cylinders
in an engine is different from the original it is
unlikely to be alternative original equipment)."
My Mk3 Cortina originally had a 1.6 X-flow engine, but now has a 3.0 Essex V6.
The 3.0 wasn't a factory option in the UK however it was an engine that was factory fitted into that marque.
Seems a bit of a grey area, just wondering what other peoples take on the rules are.
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mk2cossie
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Jun 14, 2018 13:03:47 GMT
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Just get it MOT tested, it isn't really that big a fuss surely Piece of mind and another pair of eyes looking over a modified car is never a bad thing
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Jun 14, 2018 13:40:52 GMT
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True, I've no actual concerns over it passing the test.
That wasn't really the question though!
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Jun 14, 2018 14:25:10 GMT
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On the dvla website they have a list of historic vehicle experts.
They might be able to provide you with a clearer guide.
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Jun 14, 2018 14:29:52 GMT
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To be honest I'd take as your own particular vehicle, i.e if your car started out with a 1.6 engine but was retrospectively fitted with another engine whether it be an engine that was available for the same model or whether it was an engine for a completely different vehicle then it's been modified.
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froggy
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Jun 14, 2018 15:43:06 GMT
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Test is £40 vs whatever the fine would be for no mot if you claimed exemption and got caught out however unlikely for it to actually happen .
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Jun 14, 2018 20:06:13 GMT
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Although I would still mot it (mainly because I don't agree with cars being mot exempt), you would be covered for mot exemption under this:
"• changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of the end of production);"
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Darkspeed
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Jun 14, 2018 20:40:25 GMT
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ftz313
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There's part of it that says something along the lines of-'modification of the type done within ten years of the end of production.'
I'd say that people were modifying Cortina's back in the day within ten years of the end of production by fitting different engines and as this engine was available within ten years of the end of production then this lends itself to being within the mot exempt guidelines.
Too many people (imo) are getting hung up on a particular part of the legislation when in fact there is a lot to be interpreted.
Does it make is safer or more environmentally friendly ? This is also within the guidance.
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Jun 15, 2018 16:33:36 GMT
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Although I would still mot it (mainly because I don't agree with cars being mot exempt), you would be covered for mot exemption under this: "• changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of the end of production);" This ^^^^ Also covers fitting a rover V8 to just about every vehicle made since about 1960......
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GJUK
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Jun 17, 2018 20:33:30 GMT
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You can't MOT a car that is MOT exempt.
You can take it for a non office MOT test, but it is not an MOT By taking a car which is over 40 years of age for an MOT, you are declaring your car IS highly modified, requiring of a 12 monthly MOT test and requiring to pay road fund license.
The whole thing has been poorly put in place by people that clearly do not understand their own car testing system.
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Jun 17, 2018 21:39:46 GMT
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GJUK - sorry matey your wrong 40 years is Tax free whether MOT exempt or not . Only way to lose free tax is to be so modified you lose the original registration, then its no longer classed as 40 yrs old.
You can MOT any vehicle exempt or not , Taxis for instance are still taxed as PLG but even if younger than 3 years old(exempt) they are not exempt due to licence conditions , nowt to do with DVSA and get MOT each 12 months.
Highly modified , is totally different to MOT exemption and questions the entire vehicle legality registration wise.
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froggy
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Jun 18, 2018 20:09:29 GMT
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The worrying statement that came out as part of the proposal was that modified vehicles would “self identify “ by not claiming the mot exemption . Given that the take up for voluntary testing for pre sixties cars over the last 5 yrs is only 5% I can’t see it being much higher for later cars given how many will be monocoque and more likely to have structural issues . I’ve seen one that I condemned a few years back on the road in the last week
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Phil H
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MOT Exemption for modified vehicles Phil H
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Jun 19, 2018 11:33:23 GMT
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Although I would still mot it (mainly because I don't agree with cars being mot exempt), you would be covered for mot exemption under this: "• changes of a type, that can be demonstrated to have been made when vehicles of the type were in production or in general use (within ten years of the end of production);" This ^^^^ Also covers fitting a rover V8 to just about every vehicle made since about 1960...... You see some wording of exemption and wonder who it might have been aimed at originally. I wonder if Landie V8 owners might have had something to do with it? As for a Cortina with an Essex, I think Savage straight away. Perhaps V8s in MGBs as well - although to be fair, there was actually a factory roadster version eventually.
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