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Sept 20, 2007 3:17:43 GMT
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Had a guy email me about the Lancia Beta I've got on ebay cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130153886488&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=003Asked me if I'd consider a Buy it now. I said yes and told him the amount (£700) that I'd take for it to end the auction early. "Fine," he said "I'd like to come and see it." So we arrange for him to come and see it on Tues eve. I ring him 5 or 6 times during the day on Tuesday to confirm he still wants to come and see it, 'phone just goes to ansaphone so I leave a message everytime and send him an email to ask him to confirm he's going to turn up. He's supposed to turn up at 6pm. When at 6pm I've not heard from him I tell the guys where the car is stored to lock up and go home. At 6.25 he rings to tell me he's arrived at the local tube station. I whip round and pick him up but by the time we get to the storage it is all locked up. So, we rearrange for him to come and look at it today. He gets here on time and proceeds to look around the car. He goes around the car and says that it is pretty much as I described it. He then asks me how much I want for it. £700 I reply. "Oh," he says, "that's more than I was looking at spending. Changing the number plate for an age-related plate will cost me money as will changing the wheels and putting original wheels on in addition to the other bits and pieces that I'll need to do." I can see where this is going to go but even still I ask him how much he's prepared to offer. "I could take it off your hands for £175." He replies. Unsurprisingly I decline his generous offer. He then goes on to tell me that he'd bought one to restore about 3 years ago but had to scrap it as it was rotten. "Oh, that's such a shame," I said, "How much did you lose on that?" "I paid £500 for it." He replies. He then continues with "I was supposed to be going to Surrey this weekend to look at another but that's £1500 and you can tell from the 'photos that it's not in as good a condition as your one so I don't know whether I'll go or not." What can you do? I wouldn't mind if it was a rotten POS but it's pretty decent, and in better condition than many that I've seen go for more on the 'bay. Still I hope he finds his mint condition, perfect running, taxed and MOT'd Lancia Beta for £175. I'm sure that there's loads about. Perhaps the one that he finds won't have a personalised numberplate and TSW alloys 'cause those will really cost an awful lot to get changed. Grrrrr, rant over.
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Sept 20, 2007 6:23:49 GMT
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shame its not a Beta Saloon. I have a mega-jones for one of those. It would have to be in dark blue or I'd have to knock the price of a resray off it obviously... A chap I knowish had a Model A hot rod for sale. Some chump came to see him and dsaid it was only worth a grand because it had a 4 pot in it not a V8. His arguement was "its a Pinto, you can pick pintos up for £50" But yeah, seriously, I feel your pain
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Ed
Part of things
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Sept 20, 2007 8:03:31 GMT
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friend of mine was looking for a solid oval window beetle. bloke is oxfordshire says he has one, and its mint. my friend double checks with the bloke that its as solid as it sounds as its a 2 hour to drive to see it.
the bloke says that he must meet him at his home and then take him to a barn in the middle of nowhere to see the car, so my friend does this.
when upon reaching the car, its an absolute wreck, you can put your hands through the heater channels and see through the firewall, its a rotter....
the bloke is still adamant its mint!
so my friend has a proper go at him, tells him to go forth and multiply and gets in his car.
the bloke questions what hes doing as he has no phone, no transport, no one knows where he is....and its miles back to civilisation....my friend shouts out 'walk you b*stard' and roars off leaving the timewaster stranded ;D ;D
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Sept 20, 2007 8:15:16 GMT
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Hehe brilliant I'm all up for a bit of haggling, and am not offended at all if someone offers me £500 for a car I want £1000 for, there's no harm asking. But when they start pointing out faults I've told them about, and priced it to suit.... like when I sold my Audi which was a damaged-repaired Cat D. Wanted £550, which is pretty reasonable for a 2.3 20v Sport with low mileage... chappie comes and looks around, drives it, goes away to 'have a think'. Rings me up the next day and offers me £250, as he's had it HPI'ed and it's a Cat D. So I read him the bit of the advert he responded to which said "Previously written off, photos available of damage, repaired and MoT'ed" and he persisted with it.... "Well, you can't ask full price for a writeoff can you?". FFS! It's be £800 without the blot, foooool! And it was only a broken taillight and steering column lock anyway.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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Sept 20, 2007 9:07:14 GMT
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A good friend is looking to sell his Lotus Carlton Positives He's only the second owner and has owned it for nearly 12 years, It's not silly mileage 70K from memory. got a fully rebuilt engine and turbos, new brakes all round, full stainless exhaust front to back, near new tyres, timing chains up rated along with all the parts required, Had all the modifications done to the bell housing and clutch assembly plus all the history and bills in a huge folder. It's also been magazine featured twice. Negatives It's got a few stone chips on the front and the odd little car park dint on it's flanks not to be unexpected on a 14 year old car. He wants £15K for it no offers or negotiation thats what it will take to leave his care (Personally I think thats cheap but thats just me) but he's just sold his "spare" brand new crate engine for £3500 so he's definately selling the car The last person who viewed it said nice car but it would cost me £2K to get the paintwork done (maybe he's right - maybe not) but I know if he buys a "pretty" one it's likely to cost him a barrow load of cash to get the mechanicals right and the car will spend a huge amount of time off the road!!! I just don't understand people at all
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Sept 20, 2007 17:04:11 GMT
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Oh well, at least he showed up!
Whenever somone offers me a derisory amount for something I'm selling I just say "sorry mate I'm sure April fools has gone already this year!" Its best to be polite to all potential buyers as they could come back with a better offer but some take the wee!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Sept 20, 2007 17:07:16 GMT
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Some div bought the Banham shell for the asking price.....still haven't heard s*d all since. Git.
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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Sept 20, 2007 22:33:54 GMT
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phonecall on monday, gave directions, sorted a time, went straight home from work and sat around with the phone for an hour. and had to cut short seeing my mate to about 3 1/2 minutes to accomodate this. cheers.
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Sept 20, 2007 22:47:08 GMT
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2 blokes with thick necks and thick accents came to look at my Superminx, said it was lovely, deffo interested, would I deliver? Yes, I'll deliver (less than 2 miles) for a 4-pack of Old Speckled Hen. Says he is VERY interested, but will come back for another look in better light. Next day tells me it's too expensive. Basically offers me sub-scrap money, despite me throwing in £200 of brand new unused parts. COCK.
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dugong
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One Of Us Will Live To Rue The Day We Met Each Other (Wire : 2008)
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Sept 21, 2007 8:08:41 GMT
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Was offered £50 for my 306 TD on trade in once.
I'm sure if mcgee's around he can recount the tale of his 60,000 mile Xantia being for sale of £200 (was it £200? I can't remember) and some prat turning up offering £20 for it 'because it's got a scratch on the bumper and £20's all I came out with and I'm not going home and getting more.'
Someone offered me £15 for the Amazon 'because I want to race it'. Bell end.
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redgt2
Part of things
praise the lowered!
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Sept 21, 2007 9:06:10 GMT
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i was selling a car with expired MOT for a good price...got a phone call from a dude in the next town who seemed nice on the phone, arranged a time which was 10am next day, which i wasnt happy with cos i was on nights but said ok as this dude seemed keen and he even gave his surname..mr summat or other!!
so i get in at 7:30am have 2 hours kip and wake up with alarm call....the Gent never shows...hmmm...can't get back to sleep..
that night i have a 12 hr shift which involves some drivin..i was soooo tired i was dangerous on the road
incensed, i look up his name in the phone book and go round 5 addresses... i was looking for a house that may have a car of the same make that needed bits or maybe a guy that makes a bit on the side doin cars up......luckily for him none of the houses fitted the M.O. so he got away with being a cock......
i'm workin on the theory that if he had come round to look and bought or even not bought the car it wouldnt have wound me up as much as not showin at all so i would have got back to sleep!!!...lol
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Sept 21, 2007 9:16:06 GMT
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Had a cracking example with the Stag - middle aged woman turned up, obviously was a complete timewaster just from the way she was standing pathetically by the car. Poked around it for about 15 minutes, mumbled for ages about the state of minor irrelevant trim, poked at tiny insignificant flaws, wondered around totally depressed - remember, I was asking 4500. Then went "Oh, it's not as nice as the one I owned".... "How much did you sell it for?" I asked..... "11,000" she replied... I rest my case. If there's one thing I can't stand - it's people who expect ten grand cars for five grand money and act like complete morons when unsuprisingly it doesn't turn out to be the case - logical reasons for turning down a car I have no problem with but that takes the biscuit! I took small consolation from the fact that when she originally sold her Stag, she used the money to set up a business that failed next year. Then, a few weeks later, I found the Stag she eventually bought was a totally shed and the transmission dropped out on the journey home. Well played. Oh well, not a spiteful sort but it was some consolation
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2007 9:21:21 GMT by Lewis
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Sept 21, 2007 9:56:58 GMT
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Had my Dolly sprint on ebay a couple of years ago,fairly rough but had a top end rebuild and jigsaw racing fully adjustable suspension and a clean interior.I described it as rough as the rear wing would have come off if you pulled hard enough.Also had abit of TandT I wanted 850 quid.This bloke phones up and asks if he could view it on the coming saturday i agree and he shows up dead on time,good start i think.He starts by critisising the bodywork,to which i reply "did you look at the pics and read the descripion"he replys "yeah yeah".And starts to tell me about him crashing his sprint the week before etc.He goes for a test drive with me and coments on the suspension being too hard"well as i said in the description its fully adjustable".When we get back its now been 3 hours since he arrived and we start to talk about a deal,he asks if i would end it early which i stupidly agree and we settle on £850 and he leaves me a £50 deposit.He aranges to pick it up on the following thursday but will phone on wedensday to confirm by saturday i hear nothing from him so i phone him "yeah i had something come up",ok why not phone me then.I phone him for up to a week afterwards on his mobile and his home number i got from a listing he posted before,and i tell him on both his answer machine that he's lost his money and i never heard from him again.Aweek after listing it a chap comes up from cornwall spends 5 minutes looking round it waves £800 under my nose and he driving it away on his truck 5 minutes later,the way all deals should be done.
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Sept 21, 2007 10:17:12 GMT
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At least you got £50 out your tyre kicker LordYoung so fair play to ya.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Sept 21, 2007 10:53:47 GMT
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I know i should'nt complain but at the time it was alot of hassle,i got the impression his mrs did'nt like or know about the purchase of the car.I just hope she got to the answer phone message before he did ;D
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Sept 21, 2007 11:56:41 GMT
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OK, I've had some peaches. I'm sure I've told these tales before but here goes.... A while ago, in the days before eBay, I had the ultimate timewaster magnet: A 1968 Plymouth Fury III which was painted army green with white stars stencilled on the doors etc. Anyway, this car was a whole heap of trouble. It was leaky and boy was it rusty. And all the elctrics were shot, and the trans slipped. But it had a sweet V8 and the heavy duty back axle and a few other desirable things (TF727A trans etc) So I put it up for sale as "for spares or brave restoration, very rotten, no T&T, ideal donor for hot rod or Cobra type kit car etc." And a price of a few hundred quid. So I get some drunk guy ring up at 11:15 one Friday evening, "can I come have a look at it now?" I get some guy in London who wants to know if I will swap it for a Ginenta G15 which is all in bits and can I deliver/collect the G15... At least three of 4 people for whom the phone conversation goes like this.... guy: Is the Fury still for sale? me: yes. guy: is that like the one in Christine? me: no, its 10 years younger. Like it says in the ad, 1968. guy: so whats it like? Me: dog rough. guy <laughs> me: pretty rusty, body's full of filler, nice interior, mechancially good except theres a fault with the box, not sure what. guy: will it need much for the MOT? me: electrics sorting out, maybe some welding, dunno, trans sorting... so then they come and look and say "its a bit rough isn't it?" and I say, yes. it is. dog rough. (what were you expecting when I said it was rough on the phone and am asking next to nothing for it? You think I was lying? Saying tis worse than it is to put buyers off? Or maybe you think I'm some kind of imeceile who sees rot where tis not? And then they go away. I even said to one guy "its rotten, its a spares car or a banger racer really. The price is what the mechanical bits which still work are worth, I just can;t be bothered to break it myself...." and he turned up and said "its a bit rough isn;t it?" ****** T W A T ******* I had two lads drive up from Bristol in a new Pug 106 or similar, take it on the worlds most worrying test drive (slipping trans, no T&T, no insurance probably, totally identifiable as my car as it was well known in the locale to be a point of refference on the Rotarian Club treasure hunt etc.) and then they went off to "think about it" I was so fugged off with all this that when some bloke turned up in an American car (woo hoo) and offered me £100 for it I said "if you have the cash and take it away pronto, yes". He mumbled something about having to go to the cash point and I never saw him again. In the end when people rang up I said "are you a scrap dealer or banger racer?" and if they said "No" I told them to sod off. In the end I sold it to a mate of a mate for £450 the engine went in a '59 Plyumouth the seats went in an Impala and the tyres went on a CHrysler. The rest went to be weighed in. THE END. Then there was the couple who I picked up at the station, came and test drove my FD Estate for 2 hours, wasted my time for a whole morning doing a microscopic paint work check on it and then announced it was "too big". Well, its no bigger now than 4 hours ago when you arrived here you idiots. Nice people, really, they were nice, but dim. I've owned about 50 cars. I have still got 5 of them. I must have had 5 timewasters for each car I sold on average. Therefore I have dealt with 225 timewasters I guess. Some worse than others.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2007 11:59:07 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member
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Club RR Member Number: 174
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Sept 21, 2007 12:29:39 GMT
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My mates got a kit car he sold to a guy in belgium sat on his drive. Its been there for 8 years, and the guy payed him the full £8k in cash, said he'd be back in 2 weeks to get it and has never turned up.
Matt
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lae
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Sept 21, 2007 12:55:08 GMT
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I sold my MG on ebay for £2250, asked the guy for the deposit by Monday evening, he didn't send it so I phoned him every half an hour until Wednesday when I got curse word off and left a message saying '3pm today or you don't get it'. He phoned me at about 10pm saying he could send the deposit in the next couple of days, I told him to curse word off... then he gives me negative rep on ebay claiming that I refused to sell the car.
Then he refused to accept the 'mutually ended contract' thing on ebay, meaning I had to pay the final sale commission to ebay (I sent them the series of emails I had sent to him proving that it was his fault that I couldn't sell it to him, so I didn't have to pay it in the end...).
And as an act of final cheek, he threatened to send me his an invoice for his insurance cancellation fee. I wrote back saying 'I will happily pay the fee if you pay the difference between your winning bid and the next highest bid. Considering that it was entirely your fault that the transaction was not completed, and that you breached a legally binding contract, I expect that my endeavours to recover costs will be more fruitful than yours'. Strangely I never heard from him again. I have taken to sending him monthly letters asking for the costs, I know I'll never get anything but it's fun.
What kind of idiot insures a car before he's even paid the deposit anyway?
Another time I went all the way from York to Romford to see a Cortina 3. Apparently it was in useable nick, was used regularly by the same owner (who apparently wasn't a dealer) for about five years and hadn't been thrashed or crashed. When I got there, surprise surprise, what did I see, about eight cars crammed onto his driveway and front garden with 'For Sale signs on them... not a dealer... well maybe not a professional one.
I looked a the car and the whole front end was full of filler and was a different shade of rattle-can green, and the guy said he had been driving it regularly for about 5 years... well... I checked the paperwork and in the five years it had been sitting there, it hadn't had an MOT for three of them, and it had done about 200 miles... hardly regular use.
I watched the car on ebay and unsurprisingly, after it had been sold, a few days later it was relisted, this time with all the details listed correctly haha
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Currently: Mk1 Focus blandmobile
Formerly: 1969 MG Midget 1972 Avenger GT 1981 Datsun Cherry 1989 Corolla 1979 Mercedes W123 200D 1995 Ford Falcon 1996 Ford Telstar (bet you had to google that one)
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Sept 21, 2007 14:40:58 GMT
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All these stories are so typical! This is why I like eBay. You can sit at your computer and filter out 80% of these 'tards. OK Ebay has its problems but its such a joy to be able to bat these w@nkers away before they get near your house or telephone.
E-reg granada potential purchasing candidate: comes to have a look, test drive, inspection etc etc then: 'Hmm i'm not sure if I want a car of this kind of age.' W@NKER
Y-reg Ital candidate: "Hmm, well, its not REALLY an Ital is it?" WTF? TW@T.
SD1 2300 candidate: "Will you swap it for a Camera?" KNOBHEAD.
Mitsubishi Celeste candidate: "Hmm I'll give you £175, as the centre console is broken" (Asking price was £450). CRIPPLE.
Its funny afterwards though, just infuriating at the time.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2007 14:41:52 GMT by xbo11ox
1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Sept 21, 2007 14:52:52 GMT
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SD1 2300 candidate: "Will you swap it for a Camera?" LMAO I've been offered some odd swaps in my time too. Sure it wasn;t a Camaro he was offering?
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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