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I don't know how this is possible as I always thought DVLA wouldn't allow a plate on a car that made it appear newer?
And no, it hasn't had a VIN plate change/floorpan swap out.
Any thoughts?
Ta
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Apr 23, 2018 10:10:11 GMT
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Hi, It was common practice at the time when it was first registered a vehicle it got the current age plate. The current age 'upgrading' rules you mention was introduced much later when private plates were first officially sanctioned and enabled.
Colin
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Apr 23, 2018 10:12:37 GMT
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When was it first registered? My zephyr is a '63 but was only registered in 71 (I think) and as such had the plate on from that year untill the late 90's when it got an age related plate, the reason for mine (not confirmed) was that it was an ex MOD officers car
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Apr 23, 2018 13:10:30 GMT
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Thanks guys. It's registered as a 60 on DVLA but with a 65 plate. Maybe it was imported way back then but is rhd so who knows?!
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1960 car on 1965 platefr€$h&m1nt¥
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Apr 23, 2018 13:13:46 GMT
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It could be an import from a RHD country. Japan? South Africa? Not sure if chassis numbers would give clues to original build / registration country.
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Apr 23, 2018 15:48:21 GMT
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My dad had a 1977 Austin princess on a V reg (1979-80) it was an excellent Jersey car, like others have said back then they put the latest plate on but the logbook had the original date of manufacture on it
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Apr 23, 2018 16:31:48 GMT
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I stand to be corrected ...as always... but as far as I can recall up to about '82-'83(ish) you could , if you so wished and with the appropriate "donation" to dvla , re-register your car every year on a "new" registration letter. it was around this time that the whole age relate thing came around which put the brake on such fun and games.
my 1980 mk1 has carried a "y" plate from new and I used to own a '72 s111 lightweight land rover that also wore a "y" reg.
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'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
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Apr 23, 2018 17:28:45 GMT
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Hi, The Land Rover 'LWT' on a 'Y' plate is usual as it would have been a government disposal in 82/83.
Colin
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Last Edit: Apr 23, 2018 17:30:37 GMT by colnerov
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Apr 23, 2018 17:46:10 GMT
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I stand to be corrected ...as always... but as far as I can recall up to about '82-'83(ish) you could , if you so wished and with the appropriate "donation" to dvla , re-register your car every year on a "new" registration letter. it was around this time that the whole age relate thing came around which put the brake on such fun and games. I've never heard that. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've never heard it before. That time (82/83 ish) was when imported cars stopped getting a new registration and started getting an age-appropriate one. So the end of early 70s 911s wearing X-suffix plates. |
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Apr 23, 2018 18:13:42 GMT
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The age related plate came into being on Aug 1st 1983. Before that cars imported or otherwise late registered simply got the next available plate regardless of actual age. I owned a 63 FB Victor registered in 1970 on an H plate (ex Royal Navy) and a 1964 Volvo 122S Estate, bought by a British serviceman in Paris (BFPO) and imported into the UK and Registered in Dec 1967 on an F plate.
I remember the date of introduction of the age related plate exactly cos my then car dealer boss bought 3 Ex military Cortina Vs one of which were lightly damaged. All 3 were black, so he kitted them out with the limited edition "Crusader" stripes and registered the 2 undamaged cars on Y plates in June of 1983, selling both very quickly! The damaged car, he repaired but held back in order to get it on the new A prefix plate on August 1st. Imagine the look on his greedy little face when he returned from the LVLO with an age related T plate instead! I still laugh about it every time I think about it!
Steve
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Apr 23, 2018 18:33:18 GMT
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iirc Sweden used to drive on the left and changed to the rhs so
depending on the age Volvos from Sweden could be lhd or rhd
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Didn't some imports get put onto a Q plate as well?
But yes, a late registration or an import makes sense. I've seen a new D reg Stag before despite it being a 1979 car.
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iirc Sweden used to drive on the left and changed to the rhs so depending on the age Volvos from Sweden could be lhd or rhd They did. They changed overnight in September 1967. However about 90% of Swedish cars were already lhd, so a rhd pre67 Swedish car is pretty rare. |
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My 64 122S Estate was a french market car (originally sold in Paris) so was LHD anyway. This particular model was not available in England as it had the B18D motor with twin SU carbs, a hotter cam and an overdrive gearbox. All UK Estates were B18A spec with single Solex carb and O/D was not an option, though UK Estates had a taller diff to compensate.
Since I had ALL the paperwork for the car (I bought it from the original owner, best £100 I ever spent) I learned it had a truly international history, a Swedish car, bought in France, by an Englishman (an RAF squadron leader) and paid for in American Dollars!
After all these years, this car still holds the No1 spot on my list of cars I should never have sold!
Steve
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From 1976 (or 77, I forget) the application for a new registration by a dealer included a confirmation that the car was new. Hence some people who are going for VED exemption on the basis that they can prove their 1979-registered car was actually built in 1977 but sat around for a year or two unsold are finding that they can get VED exemption, but get a new (well, old) age-related plate to make things correct.
So there was some attempt to tie down the relationship between age and registration prior to 1983, at least for cars sold new in the UK.
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Apr 24, 2018 10:01:20 GMT
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Didn't some imports get put onto a Q plate as well? But yes, a late registration or an import makes sense. I've seen a new D reg Stag before despite it being a 1979 car. The Q plate was introduced at the same time as the age related plate, 1/8/83, to put on cars that couldn't be accurately dated. A practice which continues to this day. But a D prefix plate on a 79 Stag makes no sense as the D reg came out on 1/8/86, 4 years AFTER age related plates were introduced. To get that plate, it would have to be a "new" car registration, ie a car that had been sat in a showroom unregistered for several years or something similar. Which is less unlikely than one might think, A trader I know bought a new unregistered 1963 Singer Gazelle from a closed down Garage in Scotland in 1982 and the plate it got was an X suffix! Steve |
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