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Dec 19, 2017 20:16:43 GMT
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I’m in a bit of a predicament and was hoping the knowledgeable folk of retro rides may has some words of wisdom to share.
I bought a car from eBay back in September... of 2016...
At the time I tried to SORN it using the new keeper number but for whatever reason the DVLA site wouldn’t let me and said I had to use the number from the new V5 once I’d received it. Now, the car in question is a project car and has been sat engineless at the back of my drive since about a week after I bought it so tax, and the V5, were far in the back of my mind. This now brings us up to December 2017 and my current predicament.
The V5 for the car never showed up and I’d all but forgotten about it. I’ve spoken with the DVLA and the lady advised me that I am indeed not the registered keeper of the car so it looks like the previous owner never bothered to send the V5 in. She’s advised me to fill in the V62 form to get a new V5 sent out. This is all fine but I’m worried that if I put the actual purchase date on the form the DVLA will come chasing me for a whole year of tax even though the car has been sat on axle stands. This leaves me another option of simply making up the purchase date stating I got the car a couple of months ago but lying may open up another can of worms for me?
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I realise this is my fault for forgetting to chase things up but need some advice to clear it all up.
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Dec 19, 2017 20:18:41 GMT
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Just put today's date as having purchased it. Honestly they really do not have the time to go sifting through ads on the internet trying to work out when you possibly bought it. You'll have your v5 by January, and can SORN it then. Don't worry about it!  |
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V5/Tax QueryDeleted
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Dec 19, 2017 20:28:11 GMT
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Personally I would be truthful as otherwise you put yourself up for worse offences than not declaring SORN, apply with the date of purchase and IF you hear anything else then refer them to the phonecall stating the PO has committed the offence by not informing DVLA of change of keeper, he then gets the fine.
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Last Edit: Dec 19, 2017 20:30:52 GMT by Deleted
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I'd put the correct September date but 2017. If queried, you can say it was a mistake and you meant 2016.
Easy mistake to make when you've had a year of putting 2017 on everything
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Dec 20, 2017 20:37:47 GMT
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I think I'd go with honesty, they will possibly have logs of attempted SORNs etc so could verify you tried to sorn it etc. (or is that pie in the sky?)
The reg keeper will be getting the flak for not sending it in surely?
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Dec 20, 2017 21:29:13 GMT
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They really do not pay attention to it at all..
It's entirely up to you. I am sure you already have a way you're going to deal with it in your mind anyway.
However, as I've already said (I am talking from experience) just fill it in as today's date. Nobody is going to bat a eyelid, you can enjoy your Christmas without worrying about a fine.
Either that, or be completely honest, but you may spend the next couple weeks/months worrying about a fine you may or may not receive.
if you do decided to declare the actual date, you may or may not get fined. However it won't go to the last owner, it says on the v5 that you must chase up AFTER 6 weeks if you have not received anything. knowing the dvla, you and the old owner would both get fined.
Again though, fully up to you. But you are definitely over thinking it.
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V5/Tax QueryDeleted
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Dec 20, 2017 22:40:17 GMT
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I've found the best way to deal with DVLA is an honest hand written letter. Strange in these times I know but give it a try? Hope you get it sorted 👍
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V5/Tax QueryDeleted
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Dec 21, 2017 21:11:52 GMT
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knowing the dvla, you and the old owner would both get fined. Again though, fully up to you. But you are definitely over thinking it. There are two different fines, one to the PO for not telling the DVLA of the change of keeper and other to the new owner for failing to declare SORN. But why worry about a 'fine' that isn't legally enforceable? |
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Dec 24, 2017 10:16:50 GMT
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Thanks for the input gents.
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V5/Tax QueryChasR
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Dec 25, 2017 23:59:43 GMT
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I'd go with covcourier's suggestion.
But let this be a lesson make sure that you get a new V5 and chase the DVLA until it arrives. Yes I know it's a pain and there are better things to do with your time but at least you won't end up in such a debacle.
I say this as I've been threatened many a time with fines from the DVLA for not notifying them of me being the new owner in one way or another or sending it over to them.
There is another way around it. Do the V5 online. In the case of the Mercedes I took my laptop down, my phone which has tethering (or use Wifi) and offered to do it for the seller ; you can do it on your mobile too but it's easier on a lappy. Why have I suggested it?
-The DVLA cannot claim they didn't receive the logbook ; you have an email for that saying that they did get an electronic notification
-They also cannot blame the seller or the seller can't say anything ; the seller gets an email and has an option to send the buyer an email.
-You'll get a logbook in 3 working days, not 2-4 weeks if the buyer sent it via the post.
I don't mean to make a big point of it but things IME never always end up pleasant after an ownership/responsibility change and I've been relatively lucky in the past.
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Last Edit: Dec 26, 2017 0:00:48 GMT by ChasR
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