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Hey all
I would love to get some advice on a car I want to buy in a 6 months.
Next year my wife and I are going to Holland for about 10 weeks. We
want to buy a car big enough to put a mattress in the back.
We are happy to go the Volvo 850 etc way,
but we would a car like Grizz has. A Berlingo, Partner Kangoo etc
Something like that.
I think that a Kangoo is a little bit longer (in the back) than a Berlingo.
If that's the case indeed than we prefer the Kangoo.
Does any one of you have a car like this or know someone that has one and
is willing to share some experiences.
If the Kangoo / Berlingo doesn't work for us what would
you suggest to buy?
A big Opel? Or a Citroen C5 wagon, or Volvo ?
What do you think?
Thank you for your advice!
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Ford Explorer can fit a double mattress in the back easily.
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fiat doblo converts from car to van van to car sliding doors etc
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ChasR
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MkIII Mondeos are huge in the back. If you want longevity go with a 2.0 petrol. They are pretty tough. Weakpoints include:
-Rear brake callipers;handbrake gives up at some point
-drop links and ARB bushings but genuine Ford items are a fit and forget item here.
-Ermmm, other things but they are pretty minor ; every car has them! We've had loads with big miles on them and they have been OK.
I've driven a Kangoo for quite some time. Here is what I found.
-The diesel engines are very willing and even the DCI can take some punishment for a common rail.
-Some suspension parts may need changing depending on how it's been used.
-They chew up the dogbone engine mounts for fun ; new ones are cheap and easy to fit or you can get a PowerFlex bush to work, albeit with potentially some vibration.
-Electrics can be a weakpoint ; the rear lights are one example ; make sure the connections are taught and kept clean.
-They are based on a Phase II Clio I believe. They don't handle quite like one due to the higher centre of gravity and slab sides ; sidewinds can be interesting.
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fad
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I used to bomb around in a diesel scenic running on veg oil. That was good cos the back seats come out making a van.
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We had a Caddyvan (first one) you could get a double inflatable mattress in the back and had the bonus of being quite high roofed.. handy for erm sleeping..
If you go for a car derived car, spend some time adding insulation and sound deading to the roof at the least, aa rain a seagulls make a real racket at 5am.
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Last Edit: Dec 4, 2017 22:33:50 GMT by joem83
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Finding an Explorer in NL will be very hard. I would not mind one.
The Caddy van, Kangoo etc are still high on my "want" list.
I'll have a look at the Mondeo for sure. I did not know that they were that big.
Thanks
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fulvia1436
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Multipla 1.9JTD is brilliant to drive, and huge in the back with seats out ~ much bigger and more usable space than the Doblo. And really good value as they're relatively cheap.
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Don't know what you are planning regarding registration / taxation, but some of the small vans will likely be registered as commercial vehicles, which might cause you more issues. I have a mk3 mondeo estate, the 1.8l and I wish I had gone for the 2l. Watch out for them having very high mileage and blowing smoke... the handbrake has a crappy self adjusting mechanism that doesn't work that well, not that people seem to use the handbrake all that much over here. Other than that they will happily eat up the highway, and a fairly comfortable if you don't mind the steering wheel being over to one side by an inch or two.  |
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A Multipla would be awesome. I find them one of the ugliest cars around. But again would love to have one.
I only need a car for 10 weeks. The plan is to buy for about $1000 and sell for about $500 after 10 weeks.
As long as it has 6 months APK/ MOT looks kinda OK, is big enough for a bed is preferable automatic
and starts every day then all is sweet
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Do you have someone to register the car to? AFAIK as a non-resident you can only register the car for export, which then means you can only use it for a couple of weeks. I think...
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Do you have someone to register the car to? AFAIK as a non-resident you can only register the car for export, which then means you can only use it for a couple of weeks. I think... Yes, my brother in law will be the owner..... I too understand that I can't own / register a car in Holland. The Mulipla appears not very long. It looks like a bed wont fit in the back. The Mondeo is a great contender but I keep the books open |
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LowStandards
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I'd go for a minivan, Lucida, Estima, Largo etc Can be had for pence, normally have captains chairs and the like that fold into beds. I've Just bought a Largo Highway Star for £600, full of leather and fake wood and Japanese toys  |
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Kangoos, Berlingo and Partners are quite popular in Holland, so there is plenty on offer.
Keep in mind that fuel is quite expensive so you wont like a gas guzzler. Also Rotterdam and Utrecht have a low emission zone so do a check when you a buy a diesel.
There is also a big segmentation in roadtaxes between diesel, petrol and weight.
MPVs like the Picasso, Scenic and Zafira are also popular in NL, so if they can handle a matress in the back these might be worth a look.
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Regarding Rotterdam, Good, I hate Rotterdam
Regarding Utrecht, Bad, I love Utrecht.
The Scenic, Picasso and Zafira are something to look into. I don't mind the Scenic and Zafira. The Picasso is very round, this
might make it less of a "sleeper".
Kangoos, Berlingo and Partners still my favorites.
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have you had a look around the buy /sell groups on facebook? since marktplaats started charging for selling cars I think a lot of the cheap (sub 1000E) cars are going on FB first.
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There aren't much people left without it but I don't have a facebook account.....
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tdk
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It's really hard to see beyond a Volvo. Made in Belgium, lots in Holland for sale, 960 estate, V90, 850 estate, V70, they all have a huge, square loadbay but don't drive like vans and are tough and reliable. I wouldn't trust a cheap 90's French anything, your trip won't be much fun waiting for the breakdown truck. Traffic and parking in the Netherlands is heavy, maybe you know that, but public transport is pretty good. I still have burns from a Renault Scenic I owned once. 'orrible things. Volvo! Bon voyage  |
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I do love a Volvo. I also feel a little bit the same regarding the French.....
But it only needs to do well for 10 weeks. Even if I have to bring it to the wreckers, I still be way in front in comparison to a rental car.
I don't have to worry about a scratch, dent or dirt.
Maybe I can give the car away to someone in need of wheels after our holidays. We have done that before. Bought an 80's Escort and gave it away later. The person we gave it to was over the moon and got some good use out of it.
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