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I have an older style tachometer, picks up signal from the points opening/closing, which will be fine, once I finish something to fit it to. In the meantime, was wondering about fitting it to my diesel vw t4. Heard a rumor about using a hall type sensor and a couple of magnets on the crank to provide a signal Can anyone confirm/deny the story, and if its possible, what sort of sensor to use? Ttfn Glenn Who doesn't understand electronics
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Sept 4, 2017 10:35:01 GMT
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Hi, It depends which type of tacho it is RVI or RVC. RVI may work but could be erratic, RVC should be OK as they work better with electronic ignition. There are conversion circuits available on an auction site near you. Some OEM tacho's work off a terminal on the back of the alternator.
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Sept 6, 2017 21:54:19 GMT
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Thank you for the reply, so it would probably work, just need to find what sender to use, or possibly just get a cheap digital one and cannibalize the sensor from that. From what I can see, the converter to adapt from the alternator would cost more than a new tachometer, defeating the cost cutting idea Ttfn Glenn
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Glen
What you suggest is possible, but its a very broad question akin to "There must be some way of putting that engine in that car..."
It very much depends on what you already have. However, if what you have is simply counting pulses, then hall sensor and magnets will give you pulses. Your sticking point is that an ignition-led tacho counts however many cylinders per rotation. You need to emulate that with magnets and get sensors that are sharp enough in response to give a pulse your tacho can read. That involves maffematics and fancy pants equipment.
My advice would be to simply get a little pack of neodymium magnets and a hall sensor from fleabay, glue a magnet to the chuck of a drill, and bench test your idea. If nothing else it will be fun.
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Sept 7, 2017 10:19:28 GMT
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Realize my question is a bit vague, electronics are a dark art to me, was looking for information about if it was a simple project. So I would need 2 magnets on the crank pulley or 4 on the cam pulley. There's different types of sensor and would like to know what type to get. The tachometer I have is an RVC type (I believe) Ttfn Glenn
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Sept 7, 2017 12:18:05 GMT
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Sept 7, 2017 16:42:45 GMT
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Thanks for all the help, off to amazon to place my order, then have a play when the bits arrive Ttfn Glenn
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Sept 7, 2017 16:47:47 GMT
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Do report back and let me know how you get on. More than happy to help!
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Sept 21, 2017 13:52:19 GMT
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Parts arrived, 4 magnets fixed to drill chuck, sensor and tacho wired up, sensor next to spinning chuck, miraculously it worked, reading seemed to fluctuate, the tacho needle was sticking. Suddenly, all stops working, tested the sensor and got the following results. Away from magnet 9 volts, next to magnet 5 volts, believe it should be zero, so looks like I will need another sensor Ttfn Glenn
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Sept 21, 2017 13:55:09 GMT
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Ah. What's the rated voltage of the sensor?
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Sept 21, 2017 13:57:18 GMT
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Ah. 5-30v. That's perfect.
Well it should read 0v when away from magnet. Check your wiring, three wire circuit should be common ground, Vin(+) and output should be 0 with no magnet, =Vin(+) with magnet.
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Sept 21, 2017 18:57:12 GMT
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Tried changing wires around, no success, running with Red+ Black- Blue=signal The signal voltage fluctuates between 9 and 5 volts. So it looks like the sensor has failed, will look at getting another one then trying again Ttfn Glenn
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Sept 21, 2017 18:57:43 GMT
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Amazon purchase? Request a new one.
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Sept 21, 2017 18:59:48 GMT
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Did it come with instructions? Is there a shunt resistor built in to the housing?
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Sept 21, 2017 19:09:16 GMT
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Sept 21, 2017 19:40:17 GMT
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"Detect Object : Iron; "
Will that work for you?
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Sept 21, 2017 22:20:43 GMT
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"Detect Object : Iron; " Will that work for you? Does that mean it would not pick up on magnets, I would have to use steel offcuts as timing triggers? If that's the case its something I can work with. Ttfn Glenn
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Sept 22, 2017 5:33:09 GMT
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Indeed. Some sensors are magnetic some are ferrite sensitive.
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