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Aug 13, 2017 20:11:42 GMT
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I had this problem on my e30, my tyres kept going down and needed a removal and reseal. Now I'm having the same problem on my camper van. I've noticed when it's raining, small bubbles where the tyre meets the rim. Over the last couple of years I've had the tyres removed and refitted a few times each, it works for a while then starts to happen again. It was ok during spring, but now the weather is getting warmer the problem is getting worse.
Anyway, I need a long term solution for this, so what I need to know is, what's the best thing to do here? I can't keep going back and back getting them removed and sealed. Would new tyres help? Or do I need new wheels? The rear wheels never have this problem, they keep perfect pressure. Both fronts leak on the rims and go down. Is this because the engine is in the front and there's a lot more weight on the fronts compared to the rears.
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Aug 13, 2017 20:48:56 GMT
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get the wheels refurbished.
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Buy brand new wheels (Well the other 2 options had been mentioned)
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Last Edit: Aug 14, 2017 8:31:34 GMT by fordperv
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not likely an option for someone with an E30. |
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Pid363!
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Aug 14, 2017 14:03:54 GMT
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Get the tyres taken off clean the wheels with a wire brush and most good tyre shops have a sealer that they can brush on the rim were the tyre seals.
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Aug 16, 2017 16:30:19 GMT
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On many lpg converted cars which lose the spare wheel people use a stuff called slime which seals small punctures, the downside is the tyre cannot be conventionaly repaired once it has been used.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:40:56 GMT
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i have 1 wheel on my gte that has a leak around the bead/rim. tyre fitters used a liquid rubber goo when it was fitted and cured teh slow puncture.
its not a fix though, it only works on that tyre until its disturbed or replaced
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ChasR
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Tyres leaking on the rim ChasR
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Aug 16, 2017 19:09:33 GMT
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What welshpug has said is the best solution I am afraid. I've had it with loads of wheels. Once they have been shotblasted/dipped and then either powdercoated or painted by someone half decent (so that the paint sticks to the rim very well) they don't leak again. On two occasions it cost me a pair of tyres. When they were £100 each it was a false economy to wait for them to leak again. That and I got sick of pumping the silly things up daily. The two sets of wheels we've had refurbished on the Mondeos have not leaked 2 years after they were refurbished. Before then they were horrendous. The wheels will be leaking around the rim bead due to corrosion/rust. |
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Last Edit: Aug 16, 2017 19:10:17 GMT by ChasR
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Aug 16, 2017 21:04:37 GMT
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What camper is it? My mate still runs tubes on his early (wide 5) bay, even after powdercoating wheels, and swears by it. My t25 is fine tubeless. Normally a decent wire brush and paint sorts it out, as its just corrosion on the bead. Basic blast and coat is normally £40-50 a wheel. Or buy some bead sealer.
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Aug 16, 2017 21:14:12 GMT
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I don't think anyone ever converted a 3 series into a camper. |
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Aug 16, 2017 21:22:16 GMT
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I don't think anyone ever converted a 3 series into a camper. It says in the post hes having the problem on his campervan? Or am i being a bellend? |
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Aug 16, 2017 21:45:59 GMT
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It is indeed a camper, built from a Citroen relay panel van.
I did mention I had the problem on my e30 too, a reseal cured it, but I've had a few reseals on my camper and the problem keeps coming back.
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g40jon
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It'll just be corrosion lifting the the final finish around where the tyre bead seats on the rim (be that wet paint or powder coat).
The solution is simple. Get the tyres removed from the rim. Get a wire wheel attachment on the end of a drill, or even better, you can get a similar wheel attachment which is a bit like a hardcore version of a scotchpad and remove any loose material or corrosion from the bead seat on the rim.
Once you are back to bare metal the tyre will seal providing it isn't pitted badly. It is however worth re-painting the affected area (essential on a steel rim, but less critical on decent quality alloys). I find a couple of coats of hammerite smooth spray paint is pretty effective. I have diy refurbed many sets of wheels and never had an issue with the beads leaking after doing this.
The fact you can see bubbles from around the bead would suggest the wheels being pourous would be unlikely (although it can be another reason for tyres going flat).
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Aug 17, 2017 15:44:19 GMT
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I've had rims ground back before by my tyre shop and the rust will still come back IME. Paint I've also had hit and miss results with. I know hoopsontoast 's home refurbished wheels on his Dolomite Sprint never stopped leaking and they were freshly painted on the inside. |
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Aug 22, 2017 18:00:23 GMT
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The rust can also stick to the tyres bead and this will also cause leakage. I used a metal pot scrubber thing to gently remove it without damaging the bead.  |
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Aug 31, 2017 16:27:28 GMT
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A wheel with tyre came up for £15 on eBay, put in a £10 best offer and got it. Went to the fellas workshop to collect it and he asked if I needed another, as he had two. So ended up with a pair of good wheels and tyres for £20.
Now that I have two spare I have enough wheels that I can have the van in use and get two blasted and coated, then when they are done I can get the other 2 done as well.
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Sept 9, 2017 20:33:05 GMT
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Break the beads, clean the rim with a wire brush and put some gloss paint round the bead, the gloss paint is thick enough to fill small holes round the bead and seal the tyre and the bead will break easily again when needed to as opposed to using tyre glue ect.
Bryan
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Sept 11, 2017 3:04:58 GMT
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Tubes shouldn't be used on modern tyres as the inner wall is very rough and it can cause the tube to wear through, any tyre fitter that fits tubes to a tubeless tyre deserves a slap with a large truck going at full speed. |
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Sept 16, 2017 4:27:49 GMT
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I had this on our daily driver Passat estate. I got sick of going blowing them up so I bit the bullet and got the cash together for four new tyres. It did need them.
Bought them online but was able to pay at the fitting place they specified (Halfords).
What a terrible experience, I had to tell them to wire brush and seal the rim before they fitted the new tyres, it was all just rush,rush,rush get it done as quick as possible and sod if it was done properly.
But anyway, it cured the leaks and other than me checking them now and again all is good. So perhaps new tyres are the solution.
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Have you been mis-sold TDi.
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