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Jul 18, 2017 13:22:49 GMT
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I've been looking at stocking more than just Retro Rides products in the Retro Rides store, the first being the re-launch of Street Machine. It looks like we may well be the UK distributor for up coming periodical Rustys (assuming the finished product meets with my quality approval  ). I've got the opportunity at some classic focussed oils as the UK distributor, I'll be purchasing a limited batch as a test of course, but I'd like to take an educated stab at that, so are you more likely to buy 15W-40 or 20W-50, I believe 20W-50 is what is more commonly referred to as "classic" oil at Halfords etc. If you do purchase oil are you purchasing 5 Litres or smaller 1 Litre batches? Obviously I know people's decisions are driven by price on where and what they actually buy, but I don't want to get in a test basis of 15W-40 in 1 litre containers if people really want 20W-50 in 5 ... So if you can help me out with some info so I don't bankrupt myself that would be grand  |
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Davey
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Jul 18, 2017 14:19:25 GMT
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Is the reason for the limited choice availability?
I ask because i would be more than happy to buy oil for my daily through RR if there was the option of other grades.
Don't mind helping out the people that earn it.
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Jul 18, 2017 14:25:23 GMT
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Sounds like a good idea on all the above. I'm going to suggest maybe a poll based on the average age of the RR community cars. I currently have 5 (what I would consider) retro cars, but they are just that, retro not classic, and I use 10w40 in them all. Oldest car being a 1971, albeit with a 90's engine, next 1987, then 1999, then 2002 and finally 2003. I understand it makes more sense for you to pitch toward the classic end of the market, but if your market is the users of this forum and 80% of people have slightly more 'modern' retros then it would make sense to pitch the 80%. Just my opinion and I will be happily corrected if I have got the wrong end of the stick here!
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Jul 18, 2017 14:25:39 GMT
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Is the reason for the limited choice availability? Yes and no. The company I'm dealing with are German and do have a range of oils, however I originally went to them because they do a very specific oil that came from enthusiasts (I mean they wanted the oil, not that they were milked for it). It is only available in these viscosity. I'm not sure I want to get in to stocking a wider variety of oils as we won't be able to compete with Halfords etc. on general oils, so decided to concentrate on best serving our little niche of Retro Rides |
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ferny
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An oily question for you...ferny
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Jul 18, 2017 17:35:26 GMT
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I don't see a point in anything other than 5l. You'll have enough left after a change for top-up and I can't see people going to the effort and cost of buying 1l online for that purpose.
As to the grade. I'll only recommend 10-40 Shell to friends and it's what I use in my "modern" stuff as it really hold pressure and stays clean. Easy to get hold of cheap on a click-and-collect.
For my older stuff I'll tend to use 20-50 Silkolene as from experience it again keeps good pressure. It needs to be ordered online though and I'll tend to get other items at the same time or buy loads to justify the postage.
I'm only trying to give advice through examples. Keep in mind that to be worthwhile buying it from you, it'd have to be competitive on price and a unique selling point such as high zinc content, something people with over-head-valve engines often overlook.
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Jul 18, 2017 18:22:24 GMT
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I'm onto my 3rd Hillman engine, they all like to drink (lots of) 20/50 so I normally stock up on cheapo 5 litre / 1 gallon cans if i see it on offer.
Price is more important than quality due to regular oil changes and high usage.
1L bottles are only bought if I'm away from home and it needs a top-up.
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gte86
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Jul 18, 2017 20:14:51 GMT
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I clicked 20w50 5 litres. Not something I need now but I remember from my mini days, and the rate it burnt it/leaked that it was always hard to find when needed
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An oily question for you...accord83
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Jul 18, 2017 20:25:44 GMT
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My Escort gets regular changes of 20/50, again 5 litres gives enough for top up between changes. Not that it leaks oil, oooh nooo it just sweats power and also marks its turf like an old tom cat.
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Jul 18, 2017 20:54:06 GMT
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Sorry but i will get my oil where its cheapest .
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Jul 18, 2017 22:01:52 GMT
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I don't see why any car enthusiast would buy a one litre bottle of oil. Is 30/40 still a thing? Or plain old 30 weight for the oldies? I wouldn't buy oil off RR myself because I'm in New Zealand and the freight cost would kill any other advantage.
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ChasR
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An oily question for you...ChasR
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Jul 18, 2017 22:02:27 GMT
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Sorry but i will get my oil where its cheapest . I used to until I tried a couple f 20W50 oils. I used to use Unipart 20W50 as it was the cheapest. The Valvoline VR1 with oddly an independent Porsche specialist swore by in 10W60 form for 80s Porsche engines on the track I tried in the Stag. Despite being 20W50 it gain 10PSi hot oil pressure at idle and it stayed clean for longer. After that it seemed like a no brainer TBH. I've had a couple of other oddities but that's about it. The Halfords stuff seems OK to be fair. |
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Sorry but i will get my oil where its cheapest . I used to until I tried a couple f 20W50 oils. I used to use Unipart 20W50 as it was the cheapest. The Valvoline VR1 with oddly an independent Porsche specialist swore by in 10W60 form for 80s Porsche engines on the track I tried in the Stag. Despite being 20W50 it gain 10PSi hot oil pressure at idle and it stayed clean for longer. After that it seemed like a no brainer TBH. I've had a couple of other oddities but that's about it. The Halfords stuff seems OK to be fair. I kind of meant that i would buy my prefered brand or type of oil where i could get it cheapest , not buy the cheapest oil ! Kind of false economy and you get what you pay for like you said ! VR1 in a pinto gets my vote . |
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An oily question for you...BenzBoy
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To be honest most of my cars have used 10w40. I vote for 5 litres though, as 1 litre is a bit pointless.
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tofufi
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Jul 19, 2017 12:03:34 GMT
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I get through enough to buy my oil in 25l drums... I really wouldn't ever buy 1l things of engine oil. My cars use either 15W-50 mineral or 5W40 fully synthetic depending on the car... |
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Last Edit: Jul 19, 2017 12:04:20 GMT by tofufi
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jamesd1972
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An oily question for you...jamesd1972
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Jul 19, 2017 12:03:45 GMT
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Now if it came in an R-R branded can then you have a whole new way of getting the message broadcast. Would look good in the boot wouldn't it...
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mk2cossie
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An oily question for you...mk2cossie
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Jul 19, 2017 12:21:49 GMT
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I would get oil from the RR shop if it stocked the right stuff. Is there a chance to get fully synthetic 5w40 or 5w30? Only as someone in the trade, I've discovered a lot of stuff uses either 5w30 or 10w40 semi synthetic for the older cars and 5w30 and 5w40 fully synthetic for the slightly less aged cars  20w50 seems to be used for a lot of older stuff because "thats nice and thick, that'll do" kind of mentality seems to have been drummed in to a lot of old skool mechanics over many years  (not to say there aren't uses for the thick stuff though) |
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). I've got the opportunity at some classic focussed oils as the UK distributor, I'll be purchasing a limited batch as a test of course, but I'd like to take an educated stab at that, so are you more likely to buy 15W-40 or 20W-50, I believe 20W-50 is what is more commonly referred to as "classic" oil at Halfords etc. If you do purchase oil are you purchasing 5 Litres or smaller 1 Litre batches?
