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Mar 15, 2017 19:31:03 GMT
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My lad has come home from
School this week after a teacher offered him her ex BT grey escort van, said teacher has seen his car on this very site and offered him the chance to save the van as she's buying brand new
After a chat we've decided to have it in a while once the new car is delivered to her
We would like to go stock BT looking dropped on steels
Much like the ex BT ital van out their???
Does anyone know the legalities of full bt livery being applied back on to it???....or is it show use only?
Any advice appreciated Dan
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Last Edit: Mar 15, 2017 20:17:13 GMT by Mercdan68
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Mar 15, 2017 19:51:52 GMT
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Great idea! I suddenly found myself fondly remembering the old grey BT vans going about.
I doubt BT will be bothered - it's not their current corporate livery so it's not as if people might mistake you for an actual BT van. I guess the old logos will still be trademarked etc but I doubt they'd take out an intellectual property case against some bloke in an old van.
There are plenty of restored commercial vehicles out there carrying liveries of various companies and they don't seem to have any bother.
Go for it I say! It will be ace!
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Mar 15, 2017 20:08:23 GMT
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Thanks that's my way of thinking old livery so possibly no problems
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Mar 15, 2017 20:08:59 GMT
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Dan, BT probably have a department somewhere that could find you the old logo's. I was one of those grey van men for 13 years in your patch. I would have suggested a trip to the TSVC in the middle of Crayford but I see from google maps it has long gone. There was a 'call centre' based in Eltham, behind the old police station, up the alley on the right, someone there might be able to help. The building at the bottom is Eltham SSC, Police station is in the middle, telephone exchange is at the top in that link. You want one of the older vehicle service units as they used to sticker them up locally if I remember right. Finding one in 'reflective' material could be difficult outside BT. |
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Last Edit: Mar 15, 2017 20:16:51 GMT by Rebuilda
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Mar 15, 2017 20:10:59 GMT
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My mates Electricity Board One Ton Land Rover runs the livery it would have carried when it was in use with them. I believe he wrote a polite letter to 'Scottish and Southern Electricity' asking if they would have any objections to him doing it. Obviously they were happy to let him, as he's now got a couple in period Southern Electric livery.  |
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Mar 15, 2017 20:16:19 GMT
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Dan, BT probably have a department somewhere that could find you the old logo's. I was one of those grey van men for 13 years in your patch. I would have suggested a trip to the TSVC in the middle of Crayford but I see from google maps it has long gone. There was a 'call centre' based in Eltham, behind the old police station, up the alley on the right, someone there might be able to help. You want one of the older vehicle service units as they used to sticker them up locally if I remember right. Finding one in 'reflective' material could be difficult outside BT. Yes mate it's now a Aldi store!! Thanks for the advice if all goes to plan we will follow it up |
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Mar 15, 2017 21:02:44 GMT
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My lad has come home from School this week after a teacher offered him her ex BT grey escort van, said teacher has seen his car on this very site and offered him the chance to save the van as she's buying brand new After a chat we've decided to have it in a while once the new car is delivered to her We would like to go stock BT looking dropped on steels Much like the ex BT ital van out their??? Does anyone know the legalities of full bt livery being applied back on to it???....or is it show use only? Any advice appreciated Dan Just go ahead and do it. The worst that can happen is a letter from them threatening legal action. Besides, 99% of our fleet is Openreach liveried now, as we are a separate business...... |
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Mar 15, 2017 21:41:12 GMT
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Mar 15, 2017 21:59:54 GMT
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Just do it, I very much doubt anybody will think BT are still using Mk4/5 Escort vans. Actually maybe bill them for the advertising space?
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Mar 15, 2017 22:10:45 GMT
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on a similar theme, what about period correct racecar livery, i.e 1980s race cars with esso, mobil, dunlop, spax and everything plastered over it ? are vinyl signwriters allowed to replicate those?
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Mar 15, 2017 22:11:48 GMT
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I can officially confirm Dan.
I will have no problem at all with you displaying my username up the side of your van. I won't sue.
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foldy
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Mar 15, 2017 22:17:35 GMT
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Lose the edges of the 'B' and roll with ET  |
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I know there are some organisations who get a bit nowty about people putting their logos on vehicles (though I can't name any specific examples right now) but there are so many restored commercial vehicles and race cars around that have had the logos reproduced and I've not heard of masses of copyright lawyers ascending on car shows and vintage race meets so it's probably fine. As long as it's an obsolete logo (which it is) and you're not using the van for your telecoms business (I presume not!) you shouldn't have a problem. Is it this version?  or this?  |
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Most companies aren't that bothered, or even welcome it. A friend of mine wanted an Irn Bru theme on his car, got in touch with them to ask for use of the logo, they sent PDFs and Vectors of all their logo variants as well as the pantone colour for him to use!
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Mar 16, 2017 12:08:40 GMT
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Is it this version? or this? If it's a grey van then it'll be the white Piper logo as per the top van, very obsolete now. The white vans lasted from their intro with the red/blue Piper until the creation of Openreach where all the Openreach white vans got the multi-coloured ribbon logo with the new BT corporate logo (BT and the world in coloured discs) included in it. Going to be all change again now as Openreach is a separate company (though wholly-owned by BT) so any BT reference will be coming off their vans. I assume BT corporate vans will get a new logos but I can't see the Piper making a comeback, any more than Buzby will! :-) |
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Mar 16, 2017 12:35:16 GMT
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I can ask at work but can't see them objecting
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Mar 16, 2017 12:42:51 GMT
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My dad does traditional signwriting, not vinyls. He often does old logos on vintage vehicles, never had an issue. The issue would only come if the car owner tries to pass themselves off as a business in some way, which obviously you won't OP.
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Mar 16, 2017 14:00:06 GMT
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Thanks for all the replys yes it's the grey coloured one
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Mar 16, 2017 15:57:14 GMT
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As long as it's not current, they shouldn't mind. The owner of the "Royal Fail" slammed Corsa Combo got a letter from Royal Mail's lawyers telling him to cease and desist, otherwise they'd take it further. Despite the obvious drop, it looks much more like a current RM vehicle though.  |
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Mar 16, 2017 16:13:49 GMT
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My mates Electricity Board One Ton Land Rover runs the livery it would have carried when it was in use with them. I believe he wrote a polite letter to 'Scottish and Southern Electricity' asking if they would have any objections to him doing it. Obviously they were happy to let him, as he's now got a couple in period Southern Electric livery. That's pretty much the sibling of my dad's old one ton. Such a good looking truck. His ended up with a v8 in it, a proper useful tool. |
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