OUTRUN
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I recently bought a tilt bed trailer with a MAM of 2600kg, although I can't imagine I will carry anything over say 1600kg. As you can see in the picture, the current manual winch is badly fitted so it needs to be triangulated to the chassis or ideally, moved. If I am going to that bother I would rather replace it. My question is do I need to fork out a load of money for a Warn etc or, given the occasional use should I be looking at a Superwinch perhaps or even something like this Ninja www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warrior-Ninja-4500-12v-Electric-Winch-with-Steel-Rope-/301999647986?hash=item465094ecf2:g:uLAAAOSwgY9Xc4Pf ? I don't mind buying used and I don't mind not having a 'name'. The only real requirement I have is that it has a free spooling clutch. The Ninja appears decent, but I am unsure about longevity. Any opinions? (Kinda retro car on board to make up for boring post!)
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edessex
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Superwinch is a well known brand, so should last you a long time, not sure about that Ninja one, looks like a Chinese one to me.
However, if it was me, I'd go for a cheaper (Chinese) winch, and see how it goes. Generally speaking its low effort loading onto trailers, unlike 4x4 winch users where the winch needs to haul you out of mud.
Second hand but well known brands is a good theory, but I spent months watching eBay, and only found knackered ones. Any that looked half decent went for more than the brand new Chinese ones.
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I've had good sucess with 'Winchmax in the past, was still working fine when I sold the trailer.
As noted, you don't need anything overly fancy for dragging dead motors onto a trailer. An Anderson jack mounted somewhere at the rear of your main tow vehicle to power the Winch from is also a good idea, saves having to lug about a seperate battery for the Winch, or worry about charging it.
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if you want a handraulic one, I've got this lump lying around in the garage sorry just my sense of humour
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Nov 24, 2016 11:49:30 GMT
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Ive got a Brian James trailer, the winches are usually mounted on the bracket on the leading edge of the bed by the marker light at 90deg to the car and then the cable feed through a pulley, you should be able retro fit the bracket to your trailer, it gets the winch away from the centre of the trailer as it may end up under cars with longer overhangs
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OUTRUN
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Nov 24, 2016 12:23:27 GMT
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Cheers folks.
Yeah, my mate has the same design Brian James as me and his is mounted that way. That is how I plan to mount an eleftric one, too. As not only does it centre the cable, it keeps it out the way of the handle for the tilt bed.
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Nov 24, 2016 12:35:01 GMT
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I'd say go with a better manual winch - worm screw, two speed etc.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:10:18 GMT
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I have a cheap Chinese one. I have an incredibly narrow car port down one side of my house, however I can get an additional two cars in here, so it seemed worth while trying to find a way to utilise this space.
I could park the car in the gap, then I had to climb out the boot which was a bit tedious. I couldn't push the car in because the gradient was rather steep. Not incredibly steep but most probably steeper than the gradient of your trailer. The only soloution seemed to be to get a cheap electric winch and winch the cars up.
It's been in regular use for a good 18 months. Stored outside and sometimes used beyond its intended means (I used it to pull a very seized Escos off the back of a lorry and onto my drive way, which is did incredibly well).
It's not the nicest, most well produced item in the world and it will probably fail catastrophiclay at some point but for the money, I can't grumble.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:50:14 GMT
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I recently bought a ninja winch from machine mart for pulling the cars into my garage as its on a incline And it works well and it's a hell of a lot easier and safer than the hand winch it replaces I have another cheap (non brand) winch on my Range Rover it's much bigger (8 ton) I've not had to use it much but when I've needed it it's always done the job
So I think the cheap (copy) makes are fine for light use if your not going to load them up to much
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OUTRUN
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Nov 27, 2016 15:41:45 GMT
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I'd say go with a better manual winch - worm screw, two speed etc. After thinking about it, I agree. Less hassle and it's not as if it is a trial to hand winch a car on or off. I can't easily find one with worm drive as well as two speeds, though. Any suggestions?
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OUTRUN
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Nov 27, 2016 15:42:14 GMT
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Thanks everyone else for the replies.
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Nov 27, 2016 19:16:55 GMT
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I would say go for a decent hand winch as well, it's no hardship as long as stuff rolls ok, if there's a danger you might be physically dragging stuff on with jammed wheels invest in a couple of skates
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Question; Do you intend running the winch of the trailer electrics or fit a seperate battery?
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If it does get an electric one and that is looking less likely, I was going to run some fused 8 awg directly from the car battery (would need to check current draw).
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I need your help to get back to the year 1985.
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